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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:19 pm

NSA Report Notes Snowden Leaks Were An Inside Job With Three NSA Co-Workers Involved

Sunday, February 16, 2014 - by Seth Colaner
If you’ve ever wondered how exactly NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden was able to access as much as he did, it’s apparently because he had help. According to an L.A. Times report, at least three other NSA workers helped him--wittingly or not.

An NSA memo says that one of the three was an active-duty military member, while another was a civilian contractor like Snowden. No details were revealed about those two, including whether or not they worked with Snowden at his NSA location in Hawaii, but it does say that they have both been barred from accessing NSA systems since then.


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The third individual was a civilian employee who, it turns out, let Snowden use his Public Key Infrastructure ID to access materials that Snowden was not otherwise able to access with his own clearance.
Reportedly the worker didn’t know that Snowden was planning reveal classified documents to the media.

Snowden reportedly was able to copy that person’s password and continue using the system in that way later on, although Snowden denies that he stole anyone’s passwords. The worker, in any case, has since resigned after having his security clearance revoked.

"[Edward Snowden] knew exactly what he was doing," James R. Clapper, the director of national intelligence, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "And it was his job as assistant administrator to arrange across a lot of the databases. And he was pretty skilled at staying below the radar, so what he was doing wasn't visible."

Extremely odd no charges have been filed against any of the spies...

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:40 pm

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Wag you seriously think water boarding or torture works? Actually the people in charge if actually know something they need to hear will put you in a room with some guy whole go from guilt tripping you. Despite the whole "other countries are torture happy" image most of those countries use it disciplinary not as interrogation-ly...  

I suspect there are various ways for making one talk.  Then again, I've seen movies.
Keep in mind a lot of movies don't bring in experts on a lot of things. Day of The Jackal brought in a expert and showed torture is ineffective. The reason torture propaganda exist is so they can get people believe testimony under torture. You can get anyone to say anything under torture or even think anything as cults go there by they can fabricate anything story they need to with it or they can get a person opposing the Government to Say something to discredit themselves!

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:31 pm

CNN last week or so was speculating that Snowie's helpers may face charges; CNN didn't offer any even anon source for that speculation. OTOH CNN said not lending passwords was elementary security...
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:57 am

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CNN last week or so was speculating that Snowie's helpers may face charges; CNN didn't offer any even anon source for that speculation.  OTOH CNN said not lending passwords was elementary security...

It's getting jewier and jewier.  What will the crescendo be?  Fly him back on Air Force 1 to fanfare?

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:38 am

Jeez, the whole idea that Snowie wants to come back home is Jew nonsense.  Much easier for everybody incl Jews if he stays away.  At it goes, Jews can use him for all manner of spin...indictment/trial would limit scope of fake propaganda.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:34 am

In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Files provided by Snowden show extent to which ordinary Web users are caught in the net

By Barton Gellman, Julie Tate and Ashkan Soltani July 5 at 8:46 PM
 
Ordinary Internet users, American and non-American alike, far outnumber legally targeted foreigners in the communications intercepted by the National Security Agency from U.S. digital networks, according to a four-month investigation by The Washington Post.

Nine of 10 account holders found in a large cache of intercepted conversations, which former NSA contractor Edward Snowden provided in full to The Post, were not the intended surveillance targets but were caught in a net the agency had cast for somebody else.

(So, ordinary jews doing ordinary jew stuff were spied on, oh my!)

Many of them were Americans. Nearly half of the surveillance files, a strikingly high proportion, contained names, e-mail addresses or other details that the NSA marked as belonging to U.S. citizens or residents. NSA analysts masked, or “minimized,” more than 65,000 such references to protect Americans’ privacy, but The Post found nearly 900 additional e-mail addresses, unmasked in the files, that could be strongly linked to U.S. citizens or U.S.residents.
The surveillance files highlight a policy dilemma that has been aired only abstractly in public. There are discoveries of considerable intelligence value in the intercepted messages — and collateral harm to privacy on a scale that the Obama administration has not been willing to address.
Among the most valuable contents — which The Post will not describe in detail, to avoid interfering with ongoing operations — are fresh revelations about a secret overseas nuclear project, double-dealing by an ostensible ally, a military calamity that befell an unfriendly power, and the identities of aggressive intruders into U.S. computer networks.

A breakdown of the cache of NSA-intercepted communications provided to the Washington Post by Edward Snowden
Months of tracking communications across more than 50 alias accounts, the files show, led directly to the 2011 capture in Abbottabad of Muhammad Tahir Shahzad, a Pakistan-based bomb builder, and Umar Patek, a suspect in a 2002 terrorist bombing on the Indonesian island of Bali. At the request of CIA officials, The Post is withholding other examples that officials said would compromise ongoing operations.
Many other files, described as useless by the analysts but nonetheless retained, have a startlingly intimate, even voyeuristic quality. They tell stories of love and heartbreak, illicit sexual liaisons, mental-health crises, political and religious conversions, financial anxieties and disappointed hopes. The daily lives of more than 10,000 account holders who were not targeted are catalogued and recorded nevertheless.
In order to allow time for analysis and outside reporting, neither Snowden nor The Post has disclosed until now that he obtained and shared the content of intercepted communications. The cache Snowden provided came from domestic NSA operations under the broad authority granted by Congress in 2008 with amendments to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. FISA content is generally stored in closely controlled data repositories, and for more than a year, senior government officials have depicted it as beyond Snowden’s reach.
The Post reviewed roughly 160,000 intercepted e-mail and instant-message conversations, some of them hundreds of pages long, and 7,900 documents taken from more than 11,000 online accounts.
The material spans President Obama’s first term, from 2009 to 2012, a period of exponential growth for the NSA’s domestic collection.
Taken together, the files offer an unprecedented vantage point on the changes wrought by Section 702 of the FISA amendments, which enabled the NSA to make freer use of methods that for 30 years had required probable cause and a warrant from a judge. One program, code-named PRISM, extracts content stored in user accounts at Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, Google and five other leading Internet companies. Another, known inside the NSA as Upstream, intercepts data on the move as it crosses the U.S. junctions of global voice and data networks.
No government oversight body, including the Justice Department, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, intelligence committees in Congress or the president’s Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, has delved into a comparably large sample of what the NSA actually collects — not only from its targets but also from people who may cross a target’s path.

A composite image of two of the more than 5,000 private photos among data collected by the National Security Agency from online accounts and network links in the United States. The images were included in a large cache of NSA intercepts provided by former agency contractor Edward Snowden. (Images obtained by The Washington Post)
Among the latter are medical records sent from one family member to another, résumés from job hunters and academic transcripts of schoolchildren. In one photo, a young girl in religious dress beams at a camera outside a mosque.
Scores of pictures show infants and toddlers in bathtubs, on swings, sprawled on their backs and kissed by their mothers. In some photos, men show off their physiques. In others, women model lingerie, leaning suggestively into a webcam or striking risque poses in shorts and bikini tops.
“None of the hits that were received were relevant,” two Navy cryptologic technicians write in one of many summaries of nonproductive surveillance. “No additional information,” writes a civilian analyst. Another makes fun of a suspected kidnapper, newly arrived in Syria before the current civil war, who begs for employment as a janitor and makes wide-eyed observations about the state of undress displayed by women on local beaches.
By law, the NSA may “target” only foreign nationals located overseas unless it obtains a warrant based on probable cause from a special surveillance court. For collection under PRISM and Upstream rules, analysts must state a reasonable belief that the target has information of value about a foreign government, a terrorist organization or the spread of nonconventional weapons.
Most of the people caught up in those programs are not the targets and would not lawfully qualify as such. “Incidental collection” of third-party communications is inevitable in many forms of surveillance, but in other contexts the U.S. government works harder to limit and discard irrelevant data. In criminal wiretaps, for example, the FBI is supposed to stop listening to a call if a suspect’s wife or child is using the phone.
There are many ways to be swept up incidentally in surveillance aimed at a valid foreign target. Some of those in the Snowden archive were monitored because they interacted directly with a target, but others had more-tenuous links.
If a target entered an online chat room, the NSA collected the words and identities of every person who posted there, regardless of subject, as well as every person who simply “lurked,” reading passively what other people wrote.
“1 target, 38 others on there,” one analyst wrote. She collected data on them all.
In other cases, the NSA designated as its target the Internet protocol, or IP, address of a computer server used by hundreds of people.
The NSA treats all content intercepted incidentally from third parties as permissible to retain, store, search and distribute to its government customers. Raj De, the agency’s general counsel, has testified that the NSA does not generally attempt to remove irrelevant personal content, because it is difficult for one analyst to know what might become relevant to another.
The Obama administration declines to discuss the scale of incidental collection. The NSA, backed by Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., has asserted that it is unable to make any estimate, even in classified form, of the number of Americans swept in. It is not obvious why the NSA could not offer at least a partial count, given that its analysts routinely pick out “U.S. persons” and mask their identities, in most cases, before distributing intelligence reports.
If Snowden’s sample is representative, the population under scrutiny in the PRISM and Upstream programs is far larger than the government has suggested. In a June 26 “transparency report,” the Office of the Director of National Intelligence disclosed that 89,138 people were targets of last year’s collection under FISA Section 702. At the 9-to-1 ratio of incidental collection in Snowden’s sample, the office’s figure would correspond to nearly 900,000 accounts, targeted or not, under surveillance.
‘He didn’t get this data’
U.S. intelligence officials declined to confirm or deny in general terms the authenticity of the intercepted content provided by Snowden, but they made off-the-record requests to withhold specific details that they said would alert the targets of ongoing surveillance. Some officials, who declined to be quoted by name, described Snowden’s handling of the sensitive files as reckless.
In an interview, Snowden said “primary documents” offered the only path to a concrete debate about the costs and benefits of Section 702 surveillance. He did not favor public release of the full archive, he said, but he did not think a reporter could understand the programs “without being able to review some of that surveillance, both the justified and unjustified.”
“While people may disagree about where to draw the line on publication, I know that you and The Post have enough sense of civic duty to consult with the government to ensure that the reporting on and handling of this material causes no harm,” he said.
In Snowden’s view, the PRISM and Upstream programs have “crossed the line of proportionality.”
“Even if one could conceivably justify the initial, inadvertent interception of baby pictures and love letters of innocent bystanders,” he added, “their continued storage in government databases is both troubling and dangerous. Who knows how that information will be used in the future?”
For close to a year, NSA and other government officials have appeared to deny, in congressional testimony and public statements, that Snowden had any access to the material.
As recently as May, shortly after he retired as NSA director, Gen. Keith Alexander denied that Snowden could have passed FISA content to journalists.

“He didn’t get this data,” Alexander told a New Yorker reporter. “They didn’t touch —”

“The operational data?” the reporter asked.

“They didn’t touch the FISA data,” Alexander replied. He added, “That database, he didn’t have access to.”
Robert S. Litt, the general counsel for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, said in a prepared statement that Alexander and other officials were speaking only about “raw” intelligence, the term for intercepted content that has not yet been evaluated, stamped with classification markings or minimized to mask U.S. identities.
“We have talked about the very strict controls on raw traffic, the training that people have to have, the technological lockdowns on access,” Litt said. “Nothing that you have given us indicates that Snowden was able to circumvent that in any way.”
In the interview, Snowden said he did not need to circumvent those controls, because his final position as a contractor for Booz Allen at the NSA’s Hawaii operations center gave him “unusually broad, unescorted access to raw SIGINT [signals intelligence] under a special ‘Dual Authorities’ role,” a reference to Section 702 for domestic collection and Executive Order 12333 for collection overseas. Those credentials, he said, allowed him to search stored content — and “task” new collection — without prior approval of his search terms.
“If I had wanted to pull a copy of a judge’s or a senator’s e-mail, all I had to do was enter that selector into XKEYSCORE,” one of the NSA’s main query systems, he said.
The NSA has released an e-mail exchange acknowledging that Snowden took the required training classes for access to those systems.
‘Minimized U.S. president’
At one level, the NSA shows scrupulous care in protecting the privacy of U.S. nationals and, by policy, those of its four closest intelligence allies — Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
More than 1,000 distinct “minimization” terms appear in the files, attempting to mask the identities of “possible,” “potential” and “probable” U.S. persons, along with the names of U.S. beverage companies, universities, fast-food chains and Web-mail hosts.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:49 am

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At one level, the NSA shows scrupulous care in protecting the privacy of U.S. nationals and, by policy, those of its four closest intelligence allies — Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
More than 1,000 distinct “minimization” terms appear in the files, attempting to mask the identities of “possible,” “potential” and “probable” U.S. persons, along with the names of U.S. beverage companies, universities, fast-food chains and Web-mail hosts.

There ya' go...should we add "Jews" to that list? I wonder how real the 'protection' of UK/Canada etc really is. IE IMO the NSA harvest everything; "protecting" Brit crooks is just bureaucratic cover for not paying official attention to their crime schemes.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:29 am

Snowden was compromised by the zios either before or after he flew the coop.  Probably before, as this is playing out like a mystery novel, where they start from the end and write it backwards.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:36 am

Re-reading Wiki entry on Snowden...people say "truth stranger than fiction" but his story just goes too far to be real. Pale bookish type all of a sudden wants to be Green Beret & fight in Iraq to free people from "oppression"? He's a computer whiz but never spent 5 minutes reading internet articles explaining the real reasons for the war? Busted both legs in unspecified training accident?

Jeez, he's so "cause-y" maybe he should also campaign against unsafe military training?

BTW I wouldn't mention it except for Snowden's other significant British connections: ABC claims that he was taking online courses for Masters from University of Liverpool. Just a global-type guy I guess.  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:03 pm

Apple CEO says helping FBI hack into terrorist's iPhone would be 'too dangerous'



Tashfeen Malik, left, and Syed Rizwan Farook killed 14 people in a shooting last year. The FBI is asking Apple to help hack into Farook’s iPhone. (U.S. Customs and Border Protection)

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Setting up a pitched battle between Silicon Valley and the counter-terrorism community, Apple's chief executive said Wednesday that his company would fight a court order demanding the tech giant's help in the San Bernardino attack investigation, turning what had been a philosophical dispute into a legal skirmish that could have major ramifications for the tech industry.
Apple Inc. CEO Tim Cook said that the FBI request that the company develop software to hack into one of its own devices, an iPhone 5c, used by gunman Syed Rizwan Farook, would set a dangerous precedent that could compromise security for billions of customers. The government, Cook contends, is asking Apple to create a "backdoor" to its own security systems.
"Up to this point, we have done everything that is both within our power and within the law to help them," Cook wrote in a letter published on the company's website. "But now the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create."
FULL COVERAGE: Terror attack in San Bernardino >>

The company will file an opposition to the court order, which was handed down in Riverside on Tuesday. The court order marks the first time Apple has been asked to modify its software to access data sought by the government, according to an industry executive familiar with the matter who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The Dec. 2 San Bernardino terrorist attack killed 14 people. Investigators said unlocking the phone could provide valuable information about the terror plot and whether Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, received help from anyone else.
Chenxi Wang, chief strategy officer at the network security firm Twistlock, said the court battle would be a seminal moment in balancing "privacy and civil liberty against government data access."
"If Apple succeeds in fighting the court order, it will set up a high barrier for the FBI and the other government groups to access citizen data from now on," Wang said. "This will absolutely have a ripple effect. Apple is now viewed as the flag bearer for protecting citizen data, and if they succeed, there will be a flood of other companies following suit."


How an Apple passcode has foiled the FBI

Tensions between tech magnates and Washington, D.C., have been high since the 2013 Edward Snowden leaks revealed a massive domestic spying network that left millions concerned about communications privacy. Apple also changed the way it manages phone encryption in 2014, making it nearly impossible for forensic investigators to sidestep its pass-code system. Previously, investigators could tap into a device's hardware port to access encrypted data, according to Clifford Neuman, director of USC's Center for Computer System Security.
The pass-code system is the key issue blocking federal investigators from gaining access to the data hidden on the phone used by Farook. Investigators want to unlock the phone by using a computer program to automatically guess numeric pass codes until one works, according to a court filing. But they say they require special access from Apple to attempt that on the phone without erasing data or getting bogged down in a long process.
Investigators say a feature is probably enabled that would immediately and permanently destroy encrypted data in the event of 10 consecutive failed log-in attempts.
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In the government motion, the FBI argued that Farook intentionally disabled the phone's iCloud backup function six weeks before the Dec. 2 terror attack at the Inland Regional Center. Any communications linked to the shooting, as well as location data that might help the FBI map the movements of Farook and his wife before and after the attack, are accessible only through the phone itself, the government said.
Investigators were able to retrieve some data from previous iCloud backups, and companies like Apple normally comply with requests to retrieve cloud data because they do not involve giving the government access to company servers or altering software, Neuman said. The San Bernardino County Department of Health, which employed Farook, actually owned the device and gave the FBI consent to search it, according to court filings.
The court order handed down Tuesday would require Apple to provide the FBI with a "recovery bundle" or file that would reboot Farook's device while disabling the auto-erase feature. That would allow the FBI to repeatedly enter pass codes remotely without risk of destroying the data on the phone.


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Robert Cattanach, a cybersecurity attorney and former Department of Justice special counsel to the secretary of the Navy, said the government's request leaves Apple in a difficult position as the company is thrust into the center of the battle to balance privacy needs against counter-terrorism efforts.
"The FBI's request ... represents the next step in the journey to find the Holy Grail of backdoor unencryption, and the next salvo in the ever-escalating battle between law enforcement and tech companies," Cattanach said.
In seeking this week's court order, the U.S. attorney's office cited the All Writs Act of 1789, a rarely used law that allows judges to issue orders they deem necessary and appropriate. Apple's argument that the government is overreaching has met favorable reception in at least one court.
Late last year, a U.S. magistrate in Brooklyn, N.Y., halted a government request to obtain a suspect's iPhone data in a drug conspiracy case, saying that the All Writs Acts might not provide enough legal foundation for such an order.
The Brooklyn magistrate hasn't issued a final order, but Apple told the court in a filing last week that it would like a decision because it has "been advised that the government intends to continue to invoke the All Writs Act ... to require Apple to assist in bypassing the security of other Apple devices in the government's possession."
Apple drew support from civil liberties advocates, who fear that totalitarian governments such as China will demand the company use a similar tool to open phones of opposition leaders and human rights activists.
"If the FBI can force Apple to hack into its customers' devices, then so too can every repressive regime in the rest of the world," ACLU staff attorney Alex Abdo said in a statement.





Apple says it will fight a federal magistrate's order to help the FBI hack into an encrypted iPhone used by Syed Rizwan Farook, one of the San Bernardino shooters. The company says that such a move could potentially undermine encryption for millions of other users.

Apple's objection to the FBI's request may increase calls for a federal law that requires tech companies to design products that law enforcement officials can access with a search warrant. Earlier this year, a California legislator proposed a similar measure that would require all cellphones produced and sold in the state to have the capacity to be unlocked by law enforcement.
Any push for legislation would face stiff resistance from privacy advocates and technology companies, which say they are building products with encryption to protect users' privacy and data from hackers, and because customers want it.
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The Obama administration, which has increasingly reached out to Silicon Valley over the last year, has not asked Congress to intervene in the hope that tech company executives would find a way to comply with search warrants while still protecting customers' privacy.
In the government's motion, the FBI asked Apple to create a software package designed to function only on Farook's phone. But Cook said in his letter that he was concerned about the potential for abuse.
"While the government may argue that its use would be limited to this case, there is no way to guarantee such control," he wrote.
Presidential candidates began weighing in on the issue Wednesday morning. GOP front-runner Donald Trump said he was floored that Apple had not volunteered to aid the FBI.
"Who do they think they are?" he asked on Fox News.


In San Bernardino, where terrorists struck, residents debate FBI vs. Apple

Speaking to reporters in South Carolina, Sen. Marco Rubio said he hoped the tech giant would voluntarily comply with the government's request, but acknowledged the court order is far from a simple issue.
In San Bernardino, locals reacted to news of Apple's refusal with mixed emotions. Some expressed concern about government overreach. But others sympathized with the FBI.
Aaron Winchester of Menifee, who wore an Apple Watch and carried an iPhone 6S Plus, said he bought the products because he felt they were more secure and less prone to being hacked. Even so, he wants Apple to help law enforcement access the information on Farook's phone.
"When it comes to terrorism," he said, "if there's information they can get that will help prevent future crimes, that's in the best interest of everyone."

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:28 am

The three biggest datamining corporations claim to care about privacy.. lol
They just don't want to comply with the FBI because their business model is all about selling information and not giving it away for free just because it's some federal institute.

The rest is just a trap. hoping that "the terrorists" wil start buying Iphones with the illusion they are uncrackable. Meanwhile the NSA has full access.


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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:42 am

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The three biggest datamining corporations claim to care about privacy.. lol
They just don't want to comply with the FBI because their business model is all about selling information and not giving it away for free just  because it's some federal institute.

The rest is  just a trap. hoping that "the terrorists" wil start buying Iphones with the illusion they are uncrackable. Meanwhile the NSA has full access.  


Oh come on VIdarr.  We all know jews have been using their beloved Apple for their stealth communications of illicit, treasonous activities.  Jews want a clear legal avenue for protection against low level law enforcement that occasionally catches them in the acts.  They are using the privacy issue to get this. But we all know (especially Jacob) that jews have the technology to hack into our computers, accounts and even obliterate our websites.  There will never be legal protection against that!  How does Jacob bring that to court?  That's what the entire Snowden thing is all about.  You keep trying to steer this away from the jews.  This pattern of yours has gotten quite obvious, and your forum contributions highly dubious, if they were ever not that.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:54 pm

Wag .. how many times are you going to fall for this " uncrackable security" illusion ?

everytime companies promise data security through encryption wehter it be  blackberry, PGP, TOR, GSM or whatever, it's a joke.

The thing is that you  simply won't get a license to sell or export without a backdoor for NSA.
So not even the jews using an apple iphone are exempt from prying eyes. But they have the luxury that those prying eyes are using Israeli build and maintained hardware. remember that comverse infosys thing ?

The other thing is that intelligence agencies and 'elected' governments don't always get along very well and are not necessarely serving the same interests.

The FBI is a lower level agency than NSA so the NSA may not share their access with them.

John McAffee declared he and his team could crack the phone in three weeks.

I don't see how that is "trying to steer away from jews " so i 'm not sure what to make of your

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"  You keep trying to steer this away from the jews.  This pattern of yours has gotten quite obvious, and your forum contributions highly dubious, if they were ever not that."

But since were discussing patterns, Let's talk about this particular pattern of attacking me ever since i criticized Islam and muslims of north african and middle east origins .. Did i accidentely piss on your prophet or something to set off  this rabid jihate in you  ?  You don't like muslims being compared with jews  ?  
Did i touch a nerve or got to close to your mask and you fear i might spot your beard ? Because otherwise your continuous accusations make no sense.



This is the current policy in Europe promoted by jews

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:15 pm

Are you stupid or just getting lame at deflecting the point?  Anybody with mega resources can get any information they want.  Outside of CIA black-budgeted stuff, where jews control it all, federal agencies can only do what they are congressionally appropriated to do.  Jews work to manipulate laws and geo-politics.  They know they cannot control the technology.  As I said (and I find having to say "as I said" with conversations with you), they just want protection against low-level law enforcement.  They want to be able to communicate with fellow jews, planning and orchestrating what jews do, without non-jews ever knowing.  That's so obvious.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:51 pm

And if we needed any further proof of what this is really all about, US DOJ (what's the J stand for?) provides the perfect alibi...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/business/justice-department-calls-apples-refusal-to-unlock-iphone-a-marketing-strategy.html

Apple’s refusal “appears to be based on its concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy” rather than a legal rationale, prosecutors said in a court filing that further escalated the confrontation between the Obama administration and Apple.

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If DOJ says it's just a marketing strategy, it's surely not that. More likely, DOJ is providing an alibi for the beloved Apple's need to protect privacy for certain high-roller insiders from stumbling, bumbling, low-level law enforcement. They don't want uniformed Bubba to ever accidentally pull the linchpin on big stakes plans.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:16 am

wag wrote:
  They want to be able to communicate with fellow jews, planning and orchestrating what jews do, without non-jews ever knowing.  That's so obvious.

They might want to if they couldn't already do it. But they already can. No one seriously interested in pursuing and hiding their criminal activity uses a smartphone or sticks to the same phone/number longer than a few weeks. If you want to use secure methods of communications than there are way better options than using an iphone.

If a jew run government wants access to phones, who is the target Wag ?

If a jew asks another jew for valuable information is he going to give it away for free ?


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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:24 am

Vidarr wrote:
wag wrote:
  They want to be able to communicate with fellow jews, planning and orchestrating what jews do, without non-jews ever knowing.  That's so obvious.

They might want to if they couldn't already do it. But they already can. No one seriously interested in pursuing and hiding their criminal activity uses a smartphone or sticks to the same phone/number longer than a few weeks. If you want to use secure methods of communications than there are way better options than using an iphone.

If a jew run government wants access to phones, who is the target Wag ?

If a jew asks another jew for valuable information is he going to give it away for free ?  


Again, more deflection away from the issue.  All it takes to track down any electronic communication, no matter how stealthy or complex, is effort.  Jews want laws in place to control when those efforts are exercised.  Currently jews don't have sufficient control over this for their comfort level. 

You're all over the place in your argument.  Totally jewy.  I'm tired of your crap.  No value at all in your posts.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:29 am

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wag wrote:
  You're all over the place in your argument.  Totally jewy.  I'm tired of your crap.  No value at all in your posts.

in that case you have a few options.

1: Call the forum police
2: Cry me river
3: Get meds for your paranoid schizophrenia. Because if i would leave , you'd be here left all by yourself and probably start accusing your own shadow of being a jew.
4: fuck off

Because those silly, if not plain pathetic, insinuations you keep dropping lately in your posts, as you appear to be trying to create some aura of suspicion around me to assasinate my character, is the real cunning jewy thing here..
Mere differences of opinion should not warrant these types of ad hominems, Which makes me personally wonder about your ulterior motives.

Here's a quick summary of your views.

1: Call everyone who might not 100% agree with you a jew
2: Don't like Catholic Christians and ignore their historic efforts to stop the jews
3: Don't like critique on muslims and divert the responsibilities of their acts to jews
4: Call Europeans weak and ignore their historic efforts to stop the jews.

SO you don't like jews, Christians nor Europeans..

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:59 am

Everybody knows jews have certain tried and true rhetorical tactics.  Hitler wrote about these tactics, as have others.  It can work like this:  When people start to sense that jews are their problem, jews create rhetorical constructs trying to show that other groups (which they always pull along with them wherever they go) are the problem.  No matter how hard one tries to keep the topic on the jews, the jewish tactic will deflect discussion away from jews and onto another group.  When this tactic of theirs stops working, they shift tactics and begin attacking the person himself, typically calling them disparaging names, implying they are not smart enough to understand.  Never with jews will you ever have an honest, detailed discussion of jews themselves.  They always deflect away from that.  Read above, and see Vidarr using this tactic.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:14 pm

wag wrote:
  When this tactic of theirs stops working, they shift tactics and begin attacking the person himself, typically calling them disparaging names, implying they are not smart enough to understand.  Never with jews will you ever have an honest, detailed discussion of jews themselves.  They always deflect away from that.  Read above, and see Vidarr using this tactic.

That's funny, Because you are using that tactic on me. i bring up problems with muslims and you start attacking me. deflecting away from my arguments that both jews and arabs are semites and their behaviour, religious views and political goals are the same.
Did i ever deny that jews play a leading/facilitating role ? did i ever attack you for saying so ? No !
It is you wag, who is semitishly scheming to silence me ever since i bring up muslim complicity. Now you may not like my reaction to your verbal hostility, but it is still a reaction to the hostile action you initiated.

What is it that you don't want people to read wag ?




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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:32 pm

Vidarr wrote:
wag wrote:
  When this tactic of theirs stops working, they shift tactics and begin attacking the person himself, typically calling them disparaging names, implying they are not smart enough to understand.  Never with jews will you ever have an honest, detailed discussion of jews themselves.  They always deflect away from that.  Read above, and see Vidarr using this tactic.

That's funny, Because you are using that tactic on me. i bring up problems with muslims and you start attacking me. deflecting away from my arguments that both jews and arabs are semites  and their behaviour, religious views and political goals are the same.
Did i ever deny that jews play a leading/facilitating role ? did i ever attack you for saying so ? No !
It is you wag, who is semitishly scheming to silence me ever since i bring up muslim complicity.  Now you may not like my reaction to your verbal hostility, but it is still a reaction to the hostile action you initiated.

What is it that you don't want people to read wag ?  



     

Muslims?  We're talking about Apple and Snowden and DOJ and jew schemes in general.  Here you are injecting Muslims into the debate.  Reminds me of ________.  You fill in the blank.  It's like when Jacob blames puerto ricans for the financial crisis.  Are you too just being facetious?

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:33 am

Ehm i think muslims were brought into this debate right here..


now you can complain to the admin about that... ohw wait the admin posted that image.

My following post mentioned nothing about muslims though there was a reference to "terrorists"

Yet in your follow up post you were immediately attacking and accusing ME. So you are the one diverting attention away from the subject matter at hand and try to shift the focus towards me.

That attack was not warranted from my post yet i noticed that this pattern of attacking started ever since i brougth up muslim behaviour.
So i'm not bringing muslims into this particular argument to debate them, but as the most likely reason for your motivations to attack me.

And if you think this conflict between you and me is distracting than maybe you should not have started it. as you may have noticed with some schmugs before you who tried to attack me and run me off, i don't take well with this kind of bullshit.  

So stop trying to dig this hole for me, as you're standing on quicksand and the more you twist and turn the deeper you get stuck.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:39 am

Apple's New Lawyer Calls iPhone-Unlock Order a ‘Pandora's Box’

Miles Weiss
February 21, 2016 — 3:33 PM EST



  • Olson says `hundreds of courts' would issue similar edicts
  • Foreign governments could use precedent to invade privacy


Apple Inc.’s newly hired outside lawyer, in his first remarks on a U.S. court order requiring the company to help unlock the iPhone of a dead terrorist, said the move could imperil the privacy of millions of people around the world.

Former U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson, a partner with the law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, said on ABC’s “This Week” program that the order would open a “Pandora’s box” of privacy issues.

“This is not just one magistrate in San Bernardino,” said Olson, 75, whose wife died in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. “There are hundreds of magistrates, there are hundreds of other courts.”

In rejecting the magistrate’s decree, Apple has ignited a long-simmering battle between the tech industry and the government pitting concerns over civil liberties against the need for surveillance to fight terrorism. Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump waded into the battle last week by urging people to boycott Apple products until it complied.

“This case is entirely overstated,” John Miller, the New York Police Department’s deputy commissioner of intelligence and counterterrorism, said on “This Week” after Olson’s appearance. “The giant parade of terribles,” as he described Apple’s worries over government breaches of civil liberties, “is absurd.”

On Tuesday, U.S. Magistrate Judge Sheri Pym ordered Apple to lend “reasonable technical assistance” to the FBI in recovering information from the phone used by Syed Rizwan Farook, who teamed up with his wife in December to kill 14 people in San Bernardino, California.

Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook posted a letter on Apple’s website last week saying that the directive would create a dangerous precedent that could ultimately require the company to build software to help governments intercept private e-mails and access private health records.

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Federal officials say Apple’s concerns are exaggerated, intended to protect its image and market position rather than customers’ privacy, and that the government is simply seeking help one time to determine whether Farook and his wife had contact with outside terrorist groups such as Islamic State. More broadly, police departments throughout the country have said that the use of increasingly sophisticated encryption by companies such as Apple is stymieing investigators.

Apple previously maintained a master key to the encryption codes used in iPhone software; by showing probable cause and obtaining the necessary search warrant, police could require the company to provide them with access to customer data. But the company announced in September 2014 that the latest version of its operating software, iOS8, would only allow iPhones to be opened by the user’s passcode. Now investigators want Apple to neutralize a software feature that would erase the data on Farook’s phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts are made to put in the correct password.



Ted Olson, of 9-11 fame?
Wife Barbara, CNN reporter died  Wink in the plane that hit the Pentagon Wink ,
Ted whould know what I'm talking about. 
He's on his third wife now.  The Lady Booth sham was too obvious.



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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:51 am

"Ted Olson, of 9-11 fame?"



Great find, wag.  Snowden inadvertently became a 'wanted' tool of the surveillance program, which offers so many points of distraction from any focused campaign to challenge oligarch manipulation that young Edward might as well have his picture on the wall at the JDL.  He delivered a message for them they'd not have had sent any better way.

People pick up on government intrusion with serious if not ineffective concern,  As to who's making this regime irreversible, though, the intimidation is already too intense for meaningful, needed exposure.

They watch.  People don't like it, but that's as far as it goes short of a few suction darts getting fired at re-enforced armor.  They can meanwhile arrange large-scale offshore breakdowns displacing millions and shunt the vaguely noticed blame, to a point.

The limit point seems to depend on thus-far effective debt management, after which the category of unpaid debt may become all-inclusive. All manner of reserve funding, pensions, savings, etc, become unavailable.
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