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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Sep 09, 2016 10:42 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:45 am

New category of traveler: the political tourist - spends 42% more per day in Russia.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:20 am

Re: Guardian (UK/video) 9/13/16
Obama should grant me a pardon – Edward Snowden
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/13/snowden-pardon-obama-administration



US whistleblower Edward Snowden has set out the case for Barack Obama granting him a pardon before the US president leaves office, arguing that the disclosure of the scale of surveillance by US and British intelligence agencies was not only morally right but had left citizens better off. He said any evaluation of the consequences of his leak of tens of thousands of National Security Agency and GCHQ documents in 2013 would show clearly that people had benefited. “When we look at them morally, when we look at them ethically, when we look at the results, it seems these were necessary things, these were vital things,” Snowden said, speaking via a video link from Moscow. He currently faces up to 30 years in prison if he returns to the US to face espionage charges.

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The role he's assuming is strained and unnatural.  He's reading form notes.  If he had the sense to ignore, somehow forget about the good ol' days and just accept a fairly large fate, he'd be better off.  The heroics are over so why not head out to Kurile Island or do something else adventurous?

Going back to 'Merica to get freedom toasted is not worth the limelight.  Media is sucking him into a bad outcome.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:01 pm

Poor Edward the Mole, 'snowed-in' Russia to collect intel.  Plug being pulled on the failed op.

 

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:06 pm

A Former NSA Deputy Director Weighs In On 'Snowden'







Asked what other aspects of the movie strike him as "fiction," Inglis says it portrays NSA staffers as cavalier about people's right to privacy, which he says is not true. Inglis also points to a scene involving an aptitude test. Snowden and his fellow recruits at the CIA — yes, Snowden worked there, too — are assigned to build a covert communications network. Average time to complete the test? Five hours. Not Snowden. He's done in 38 minutes.
Chris Inglis rolls his eyes.
"Clearly [he's] a clever person. But NSA makes a habit of hiring smart people. Extremely smart people. Also principled people. So he was clearly the former; turns out he wasn't the latter."
By now, you will have gathered where Inglis lands in the "Is-Snowden-a-patriot-or-a-traitor?" debate.
He served 28 years at the NSA, and he's the first to admit he is not impartial. This week NPR has interviewed both Snowden supporters and critics, airing their views both on the new movie, and on a new campaign for Snowden to be granted a presidential pardon. Snowden declined our request for an interview, and again, so did the current leaders of the NSA. Inglis, who retired in 2014, says he can't speak for the NSA anymore. But he says he personally is open to viewing Snowden and his motives as complicated.

Fresh Air: Oliver Stone Puts A Melodramatic Spin On 'Snowden' And The Surveillance State












"I do see him as a more nuanced character," Inglis says. "Somewhere, there was an attempt or perhaps an intent on his part to do something noble."
Inglis acknowledges that the NSA did not always strike the perfect balance between collective security and individual rights. He says the NSA should have been more transparent about its domestic surveillance activities since the Sept. 11 attacks.
"But broadly, when I stood back," he says, "the story that was told [in the movie] was a gross mischaracterization of what NSA's purposes are. And a gross exaggeration of Edward Snowden's own particular role in that. To the point where you could come away from looking at that movie, saying why are 50,000 people at the NSA dead wrong? And one is absolutely correct?"
When the trailer for the movie came out back in April, Snowden tweeted, "For two minutes and thirty nine seconds, everybody at NSA just stopped working." The suggestion being, the spy agency was busy watching.

"I don't think that's true," says Inglis. "I think Edward Snowden wants to be important. Who doesn't? Who doesn't want to matter? But we've listened to Edward Snowden. We've heard what he had to say. We took that moment to examine — to be introspective about, what it is he might be talking about that we need to take heed of and do something about. And then, having considered all that, as we must — we've moved on. And so NSA is looking forward."
In real life, Snowden remains in exile in Moscow. His visa to stay in Russia runs out next summer, and it's not clear what he'll do next. He communicates via Twitter and video link. This week Snowden weighed in, via video, saying he hopes the film will reach a new audience on, quote, "the issues that matter the most." He also said, "I love my country."
This image released by Open Road Films shows, from left, Melissa Leo as Laura Poitras, Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Edward Snowden, Tom Wilkinson as Ewen MacAskill and Zachary Quinto as Glenn Greenwald, in a scene from "Snowden."
Jürgen Olczyk/AP
Two very different narratives on the former National Security Agency contractor unfolded this week. Both proved that the debate over whether Edward Snowden is a traitor or a patriot is in no danger of running out of steam.

The Two-Way

House Intel Panel: Edward Snowden 'Was No Whistleblower'

First, on Thursday, the House Intelligence Committee wrapped up a two-year investigation of Snowden. An unclassified summary of the 36-page report pronounces him a "a serial exaggerator and fabricator" who "caused tremendous damage to national security."
The week's other narrative comes from Hollywood director Oliver Stone. The new movie Snowden opened nationwide this weekend and paints him as a hero.
Conspicuously absent from the debate is the NSA itself. The agency declined NPR's request for an interview reacting to the movie. But Chris Inglis, former deputy director, agreed to see it and share his thoughts.
Inglis says he and Snowden have never met, which is the first of many bones he has to pick with the film. In it, there's a scene where the NSA deputy director asks Snowden to go to Hawaii to lead an important project. The deputy director at the time, in real life, was Chris Inglis.

"It's preposterous on its face. For many reasons," says Inglis. "That a deputy director would reach down to a contractor — who's performing an important but relatively low-level function — and ask them to take on a Jason Bourne-like activity? It simply exceeds all propriety."
Chris Inglis allows that Snowden the movie will shape public perceptions about Snowden the man. It could shift public opinion on who's the hero and who's the villain, in the ongoing debate over the top-secret files Snowden leaked — and what damage they may have caused.

The movie never claims to be a documentary. One of the opening shots announces it's a "dramatization of actual events."
Inglis is skeptical. "Dramatization to me means you add the occasional exclamation point. You bring in a musician to perhaps add some background music. But you don't tell a story that is fiction."



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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:34 am

Stone has done it again.  It's not about what really happened, just about what people believe happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:09 pm

First tweet from Snowden after today's Wikileaks CIA release:


Edward Snowden‏Verified account @Snowden

Edward Snowden Retweeted Edward Snowden
Why is this dangerous? Because until closed, any hacker can use the security hole the CIA left open to break into any iPhone in the world.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:15 pm

Snowden knows the CIA as is remains a deep state controlled org.  Of course, under Trump, that might be changing.  But this ubrupt out-of-nowhere release catches them with their beloved Ipods by surprise and they're scambling.  Of course, they don't use Android or other platforms, so those vulnerabilities mean nothing to them.  This is Snowdens role, warning the jews.

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PostSubject: Re: Snowden and the Jews   Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:31 pm

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Poor Edward the Mole, 'snowed-in' Russia to collect intel.  Plug being pulled on the failed op.

 

Snowden’s arrival in Russia took Moscow by surprise, Putin says
Russian Politics & Diplomacy
June 14, 10:41 UTC+3

Vladimir Putin pointed out that first contacts with ex-NSA employee were established in China

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© Friso Gentsch/dpa via AP  
NEW YORK, June 14. /TASS/. The arrival of former employee of the US National Security Agency (NSA) Edward Snowden in Russia was unexpected, but Moscow could not hand him over to Washington due to the lack of the necessary agreements, Russian President Vladimir Putin said in an interview with Hollywood director Oliver Stone.
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Stone conducted a dozen interviews with Putin between 2015 and February 2017 for his four-part documentary on topics ranging from Russian-US relations, Syria, Ukraine to domestic policy, gay rights and Snowden. The Putin Interviews premiered on Showtime TV channel in the United States on June 12 and will continue through June 15. The second series of the documentary was released on Tuesday.
The Oscar-winning director asked Putin if then US President Barack Obama called him when informed that Snowden was heading to Russia in June 2013 after leaking details of extensive Internet and phone surveillance by US intelligence to the media.
Putin said the first contacts with Snowden were established in China "when we were told that there is a person who wants to fight for human rights and against their violations," the Russian leader said. "To Mr. Snowden’s credit, he was not going to leak any information to us, he called for a joint struggle."
"And when it turned out that we were not ready for that… maybe I will disappoint many people and maybe also you… I said this is no business of ours. We have difficult relations with the United States and we don’t need any more problems. He simply left and disappeared," Putin said.
"And then indeed I was informed that Snowden was on a plane, which was due to land in Moscow and after that he was supposed to board another plane and fly on to South America," Putin explained. "But it turned out that the countries where he was flying to were not really accepting him. This is the first thing. Second, this information reached media, not from us but from many sources - and it became clear that he would not be allowed to fly anywhere so easily."
So, Snowden found himself in a transit zone of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo International Airport. "To his credit, he is a brave man, if not to say a little reckless. He spent some time in our zone for transit passengers and then we granted him temporary asylum," the Russian leader said.
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"Of course, the US side requested extradition. It is clear that we could not do that," the president said, recalling that Moscow had asked Washington to sign an agreement on mutual extradition of criminals.
"The United States had refused to cooperate with us in this area and under our law he (Snowden) had not violated anything. That’s why given that there was no agreement on mutual extradition and the US had never handed over to us the criminals who got asylum in the US it was absolutely impossible to do what the US partners asked us about," Putin said, refusing to say if Obama had contacted with him on this issue.
Putin stressed that he does not view Snowden as a traitor. "Snowden is not a traitor, he did not betray the interests of his country, nor did he transfer any information to any other country that could have harmed his people," the Russian leader said. "Everything that he does, he does publicly," Putin added.
Edward Snowden is a computer specialist who worked as a contractor for the US National Security Agency and leaked details of its mass surveillance programs to the press in 2013. He fled to Hong Kong and subsequently flew to Moscow in order to head to Ecuador. However, he remained in Russia as the US revoked his passport. Snowden asked more than 20 countries, including Russia, for political asylum. On August 1, 2014, he was granted a residence permit in Russia and has since stayed in the country. He faces years of jail time in the US on espionage charges.

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