Laconics Round Table

Laconics Round Table
 
HomeFAQSearchMemberlistUsergroupsRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
puckatawk
Hambone
avatar

Posts : 416
Join date : 2014-04-16

PostSubject: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:27 am

Re: Excite (AP) 11/15/14
Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17
Vladimir Isachenkov
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141115/eu--russia-ukraine-malaysian_plane-e0036722c5.html

MOSCOW - Russian state television has released a satellite photograph that it claims shows that a Ukrainian fighter jet shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17. But the U.S. government dismissed the report as preposterous and online commentators called the photo a fake.

All 298 people aboard the Boeing 777 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur were killed when it was shot down July 17 over a rebel-held area of Ukraine. Ukraine and the West have blamed the attack on Russia-backed rebels using a ground-to-air missile.

The photo released Friday by Russia's Channel One and Rossiya TV stations purportedly shows a Ukrainian fighter plane firing an air-to-air missile in the direction of the MH17. The channels said they got the photo from a Moscow-based organization, which had received it via email from man who identified himself as an aviation expert.

The U.S. State Department on Friday dismissed the Russian TV reports as yet another "preposterous" attempt by Moscow to "obfuscate the truth and ignore ultimate responsibility for the tragic downing of MH17." It renewed a call to Moscow and Russia-backed separatists to "grant unfettered access for international investigators to the crash site."

Several bloggers said the photograph is a forgery, citing a cloud pattern to prove the photo dates back to 2012, and several other details that seem incongruous.

Article continues ...

The claims were dismissed off hand to dictate a different 'truth' and add fuel to the blame game.  It's not: OK, let's see this intel.  No, Russia just tries to wiggle out of it's 'ultimate' guilt ... with ... a cloud pattern from 2012.  Where's the US satellite data?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
wag
Cervelle de Veau
avatar

Posts : 8452
Join date : 2012-12-04

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:49 pm

http://laconics.forumotion.com/t3171-jew-media-cites-jew-bloggers-to-debunk-russian-media

BBC give jew bloggers more credibility than Russia State TV.  Same BBC that reported WTC7 falling before it actually did, then never revisiting the jew-goof.

_________________
Nobody gets paid to tell the truth.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
EyeBelieve
Cervelle de Veau
avatar

Posts : 6721
Join date : 2013-02-20

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:33 am

wag wrote:
http://laconics.forumotion.com/t3171-jew-media-cites-jew-bloggers-to-debunk-russian-media

BBC give jew bloggers more credibility than Russia State TV.  Same BBC that reported WTC7 falling before it actually did, then never revisiting the jew-goof.

Internet whiners actually forced BBC to revisit 7WTC problem albeit in a muted fashion.  First BBC claimed that relevant tapes mysteriously lost; apologists argue that BBC simply reacting to numerous reports of supposed 7WTC collapse.


BBC blames it on Reuters (Jew/London news agency).  BBC Jew blogger Mike Rudin claimed that tapes actually found in 2008.  Rudin also claimed that Loose Change writer/director objected to villifying BBC:

I put this to the writer and director of Loose Change, Dylan Avery. I asked whether he believed the BBC was part of the conspiracy. Given the question his film had posed about the BBC I was surprised by Dylan's response: "Of course not, that's ludicrous. Why would the BBC be part of it?"

He added candidly: "I didn't really want to put that line in the movie."


http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6118/was-the-bbc-report-of-the-wtc-7-falling-before-it-happened-a-scripted-event
Back to top Go down
View user profile
laconas
Filet Mignon
avatar

Posts : 3023
Join date : 2012-12-04

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:26 am

This is Russian Intel telling the Jews to stop the bs cause they have more.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
puckatawk
Hambone
avatar

Posts : 416
Join date : 2014-04-16

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:20 am

Breath of fresh air there, Laconas. Hope you're right.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
puckatawk
Hambone
avatar

Posts : 416
Join date : 2014-04-16

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:48 am

RT.com 10/12/15
Russian evidence on MH17 crash ignored – Peskov
https://www.rt.com/news/318363-dutch-investigators-ignore-russia/

A number of facts presented by Russia regarding last year’s crash of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 in eastern Ukraine are being ignored, Vladimir Putin's spokesman said, a day ahead of the Dutch Safety Board presenting its final technical report on the catastrophe.

“There are facts delivered by the Russian side that for unclear reasons are being apparently ignored,” the Russian president’s press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, told journalists.

Peskov said that the Russian side has “repeatedly expressed its disappointment over the lack of proper level of cooperation and engagement of the Russian experts into the investigation.”

The spokesperson noted that certain leaks from the report that emerged earlier could not be verified and proved authentic.
------------------------------------------

As with Lockerbie and Libya, the MH17 report is bound to set a tone for blaming Russia.  This is much needed ammo for the propaganda war, a very handy set of 'findings' designed to forcefully engage the truth head-on and make it go away.  Russia's protests will fall on deafened ears.

Back to top Go down
View user profile
puckatawk
Hambone
avatar

Posts : 416
Join date : 2014-04-16

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:41 am

Re: New Straits Times 10/11/15
Russians angered by Dutch probe
http://www.nst.com.my/news/2015/10/russians-angered-dutch-probe

KUALA LUMPUR: JUST 48 hours before the release of the official report into the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 on July 17, last year, it has emerged that the Russians are far from satisfied with the conduct of the investigations by the Dutch Safety Board (DSB).

In a scathing letter to the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), Oleg Storchevoy, Russia’s deputy director of the Federal Air Transport Agency and accredited representative in the international investigation team into the MH17 tragedy, accused the DSB of ignoring “comprehensive information” relating to the investigation provided by the Russian side.
-----
In the letter, Storchevoy said that instead of studying the nature of the damage to the aircraft’s front fuselage and then arriving at a logical and final conclusion, the DSB sets, from the get go, to prove that the aircraft was destroyed by a BUK missile, launched from a location given right after the incident.

“This is before any research into the characteristics of the warhead which brought down the plane was done. Basic data and methods of identifying where the missile was fired from were also not explained by the DSB.”

Why and by whom have the Dutch been steered into a fake investigation?



Re: State of the Nation 8/3/14
Evidence Conclusive: Ukraine Military Shot Down MH17 In False Flag Operation
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=6798
Back to top Go down
View user profile
laconas
Filet Mignon
avatar

Posts : 3023
Join date : 2012-12-04

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:39 am

The Russians have enough info to keep Jews from trying to turn this into another Lockerbie.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Vidarr
Filet Mignon
avatar

Posts : 2169
Join date : 2013-01-23
Location : Iran

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:06 am

The Dutch are releasing the official investigation report today , Journalists are not allowed to ask questions.

Neither gives the report an answer as to who shot the missile , only that the missile was a russian made BUK ( as all buks are made in Russia )

Dutch people are getting pissed as this twisting,turning and outright lying by Dutch politicians is getting to obvious and leaves no doubt that there is a coverup.

Meanwhile the Russian manufacturer released a statement saying that the particular BUK missile used  was an outdated version and was only in use by Ukraine army as the Russians use newer versions.

_________________
-"Vidarr was easily the biggest a-hole posting here.".... "by far".
Back to top Go down
View user profile
OldTimes
Sirloin
avatar

Posts : 584
Join date : 2013-04-07

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:52 pm

laconas wrote:
The Russians have enough info to keep Jews from trying to turn this into another Lockerbie.

I'm beginning to feel like international air travel has already gotten much safer.

Back to top Go down
View user profile
Vidarr
Filet Mignon
avatar

Posts : 2169
Join date : 2013-01-23
Location : Iran

PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:11 pm

The official report is missing vital information namely primary radar data.

Ukraine claims it's civil radar was offline and military radar was down due to maintenance.
Nato Awacs say they lost MH17 from radar 30 minutes before it was shot down.
US General Breedlove states he did not hand over radar data because the investigators did not file the request correctly.

These primary data could have shown all planes in the area, MH17 flight path and crash trajectory , missile trajectory and pinpoint place of launch.








_________________
-"Vidarr was easily the biggest a-hole posting here.".... "by far".
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17   

Back to top Go down
 
Re: Russian TV claims it has photo of downing of MH17
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» WATERSTONES SOLD TO RUSSIAN BILLIONAIRE
» Heroes Barred From Receiving Russian Medal
» The Last Photo (again)
» Manulife Admin on Processing Claims
» ACN/AKN NETHERLANDS: CRIMEA IS RUSSIAN!

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Laconics Round Table :: Laconics Round Table-
Jump to: