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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:59 pm

No satellites ? where did i aim all those dishes at then ? one degree off and you'd no longer have a tv signal.

Is the Internet real actually ? because the tenach never mentioned it..

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 1:35 am

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No satellites ? where did i aim all those dishes at then ? one degree off and you'd no longer have a tv signal.

GPS must work according to some other, secret, means....

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:03 pm

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No satellites ? where did i aim all those dishes at then ? one degree off and you'd no longer have a tv signal.

Is the Internet real actually ? because the tenach never mentioned it..


Are the ones in South America buried underground?  You would have to point lower than the horizon.  But forget flat earth, remember when free-to-air satellites looked like they would kill cable and start offering internet?  What happened?  My 30 inch dish can't get anything but scrambled Dish TV signals and weather reports from Canada.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:55 pm

From Laconics Round Table:

"You are stupid."
"A rain drop is a ball shaped so the Earth is ball shaped."
"(after frantic 'googling' No it isn't."
"Screech Satellites! A flat earth can't have Satelliites! Hiss! Screech!"

Uncommon sense:

6) If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water, the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. Every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level.

6) If Earth were a ball 25,000 miles in circumference as NASA and modern astronomy claim, spherical trigonometry dictates the surface of all standing water must curve downward an easily measurable 8 inches per mile multiplied by the square of the distance. This means along a 6 mile channel of standing water, the Earth would dip 6 feet on either end from the central peak. Every time such experiments have been conducted, however, standing water has proven to be perfectly level.

7) Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects. Canals, railways, bridges and tunnels for example are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles without any allowance for curvature.

Cool The Suez Canal connecting the Mediterranean with the Red Sea is 100 miles long without any locks making the water an uninterrupted continuation of the two seas. When constructed, the Earth’s supposed curvature was not taken into account, it was dug along a horizontal datum line 26 feet below sea-level, passing through several lakes from one sea to the other, with the datum line and water’s surface running perfectly parallel over the 100 miles.

diagram showing curve of ball earthers
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air photo of flat Suez Canal
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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:54 pm

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Vidarr wrote:
No satellites ? where did i aim all those dishes at then ? one degree off and you'd no longer have a tv signal.

GPS must work according to some other, secret, means....


GPS is radio..
All you need for GPS to function are some accurate clocks and some radio transmitters / receivers.
GPS satellites transmit two low power radio signals, designated L1 and L2. Civilian GPS uses the L1 frequency of 1575.42 MHz in the UHF band. The signals travel by line of sight, meaning they will pass through clouds, glass and plastic, but will not go through most solid objects such as buildings and mountains.
I cant spoon food YOU anymore IF you dont even know this much..

Satellite TV works based on transmission towers.

Some flat earthers believe in Satellites and say  They are simply caught in aetheric tides above the earth.
I dont.


Skywave propagation" works by bouncing Radio Waves off the Ionosphere.



It's all essentially ground-based/sea-based radar systems.
Not even 'modern' as such, pretty archaic stuff, it's radars that underpin how they 'do' satellites, weather imagery, cell phone coverage, satellite phone coverage.
Under-sea cabling connects the "planet" Wink signals are transmitted from towers on land and at sea as mentioned above, that's how it all works.
Then we've have silly things like GoogleEarth.
Which starts out as a crappy graphic, and merges with images from high altitude airplanes as you voom-in.


Ask yourself..
Doesn't the fact that "Satellite TV" companies are hyping up their ability to provide subscribers access to programming anywhere they are with the aid of an "App" proof that they don't use Satellites?
What is that big antenna and all that nifty equipment for if you don't have to carry the antenna all around to watch TV where ever you go?
Just sayin...



Google earth is done by drones, or a low flying aircraft,
Why? because you never see clouds in the images, if it was a satellite most of the shots would be of cloud tops, not the earth.



All that matters is that any lights you may see in the sky are not satellites. We are meant to believe that they are roughly the size of a school bus, a relatively small size for an object thousands of miles away, and despite this they still claim we can see them with our naked eye.
This is preposterous; if you stand on top of a hill and watch a bus drive away from you, within minutes it shrinks and shrinks until you can no longer see it. The idea that you could see it outside of the Earth's orbit when you can't two or three miles away down the road is a joke.


All communications are simply radio wave transmissions. They do not rely on satellite technology. Think about this, when you go into the forest with your mobile phone, it will lose reception.

If there were satellites above it in the sky, it wouldn't matter whether you were in a skyscraper packed city or a tree filled forest, the reception should work in both locations, and yet it does not in most woods.

That is because your mobile phone needs to be close to a phone tower in order to work. When someone goes missing, they check their mobile phone records by looking at the pings from the nearest phone tower to the person when they went missing. They do not check satellites for information.

The concept of the satellite is classic NWO peacocking. They are trying to look more sophisticated than they are, and they are trying to give the impression that they can spy on you wherever you are on Earth.

If you have actually read Eric's work and seen his videos, you should realise that it is not possible to send anything (rocket, satellite or otherwise) into space.'

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:11 pm

BREAKING NEWS Sat july 11 2015 :

- "Solar-powered drones at 60,000 ft, satellites and lasers:
Zuckerberg reveals Facebook's futuristic vision of the internet


Firm developing systems to develop internet to underdeveloped countries
Drones will stay in flight for months and beam data to Earth using lasers
Has hired experts in solar power than could keep drones flying for months
Comes after Facebook recently bought VR headset firm

Facebook has also hired Nasa experts to help with drone systems"


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2591138/Drones-satellites-lasers-Mark-Zuckerberg-outlines-future-internet-Facebook.html#ixzz3faOffhmv


Its funny, lol why don't they just use satellites, and why do they need drones, could it be that the lights in the sky that are supposedly satellites are actually drones and what I find most insightful is that Nasa are the consultants for this .
Nasa are the experts at low flying drones , so the truth comes out there are no satellites just low flying drones !!!!!!!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:17 am

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427

With guys like Rev. Jim Osborne and 'Levy' Jones, no wonder anyone with any intelligence is running from Christianity. If our jewish leaders in the Christian movement are telling us the Earth is flat, who are we to question?

I'm just gonna forget about timezones, space stations in orbit I can see, the Foucault Pendulum demonstrations, constellations in the southern hemisphere, chasing sunsets on planes, and how ships disappear on the horizons.

The circumference of the earth was measured accurately by Eratosthenes two thousand years ago using another method we can probably debate away as phony science.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 1:51 am

Jesuisraghead wrote:
From Laconics Round Table:

"You are stupid."
"A rain drop is a ball shaped so the Earth is ball shaped."
"(after frantic 'googling' No it isn't."
"Screech Satellites! A flat earth can't have Satelliites! Hiss! Screech!"

I've got no problem banning you since you're not even a member of Laconics Round Table, and so far have gone by at least 3 aliases in your short stint here. Your posts are 90% either provocation or irrelevant to the generally cohesive focus of our forum.

Be relevant or you're done here.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:04 am

http://www.smarterthanthat.com/astronomy/top-10-ways-to-know-the-earth-is-not-flat/

(6) Ride [or fly] a Plane

If you’ve ever taken a trip out of the country, specifically long-destination trips, you could notice two interesting facts about planes and the Earth:

Planes can travel in a relatively straight line a very long time and not fall off any edges. They can also, theoretically (and some do, though with stops along the way), circle the earth.
Correction (Courtesy of Klaynos, from scienceforums.net): Apparently, planes can circle the Earth without stopping
[link below]

If you look out the window on a trans-Atlantic flight, you can, most of the times, see the curvature of the earth in the horizon. The best view of the curvature used to be on the Concorde, but that plane’s long gone. I can’t wait seeing the pictures from the new plane by “Virgin Galactic” – the horizon should look absolutely curved, as it actually is from a distance.
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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:50 pm

OldTimes wrote:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427

With guys like Rev. Jim Osborne and 'Levy' Jones, no wonder anyone with any intelligence is running from Christianity.  If our jewish leaders in the Christian movement are telling us the Earth is flat, who are we to question?

I'm just gonna forget about timezones, space stations in orbit I can see, the Foucault Pendulum demonstrations, constellations in the southern hemisphere, chasing sunsets on planes, and how ships disappear on the horizons.

The circumference of the earth was measured accurately by Eratosthenes two thousand years ago using another method we can probably debate away as phony science.

'Telling us the earth is flat'?

The earth IS Flat, and we believed as much for 1700 years, to even question it invited ones death at the stake. Because it IS Scriptural and reality.
It is J EWs like Kepler, Einstein and those backed by Freemasonry like Galileo that forced this nonsense on us.
It is YOU rather that needs to rediscover what IS Truth and what IS fiction.
The 2nd degree of Freemasonry is the Galileo theory, guess that all coincidence too?


No One, Not one person, or group has circumnavigated the earth- North to South.
Ever wonder why,  in the year 2015?

There is a saying that applies to you.
It is easier to lie to someone,  than tell him he has been lied to.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:01 pm

THE EARTHMOVERS said:
The ‘Second Degree of Freemasonry,’ as we have seen was recognition of Galileo’s heliocentrism.


Q. “Where were you made a Mason?”
A. “In the body of a Lodge, just perfect and regular.”

Q. “And when?”
A. “When the sun was at its meridian.”

Q. “As in this country Freemasons’ Lodges are usually held and candidates initiated at night, how do you reconcile that which at first sight appears a paradox?”
A. “The sun being a fixed body and the earth continually revolving about the same on its own axis, and Freemasonry being a universal science, diffused throughout the whole of the inhabited globe, it necessarily follows that the sun must always be at its meridian with respect to Freemasonry.

Q. “What is Freemasonry?”
A. A peculiar system of morality, veiled in allegory, illustrated by symbols.



Chiesa Viva:  

http://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Pallio_1_e_2__BXVI__en.pdf

The article goes into excruciating detail in explaining the satanic symbolism in BXVI's pallium, coat of arms, and two of his mitres. I am posting the article here in order to bolster the proposition that heliocentrism has nothing to do with experimental material science, but is, rather, a tenet of satanism.

The true essence of the heresy of heliocentrism is, I think, perfectly demonstrated by the descriptions and explanations provided in this article. As the hellish ritual above shows, this heresy acts as the first principle of a belief system veiled (hidden; occult; secret; esoteric) in allegory (ambiguity; delusion; deceit) and presented in symbols.

Heliocentric satanism is a cult of unreality or anti-reality, that raises quantitative extension (an accidental form) above all created substances. The worm and the cockroach - individuals belonging to two classes of substance or kind and actuated by their respective substantial forms - are higher in being, in nobility, and in perfection than quantity as such, which can never subsist in itself.  

Though heliocentrism purports to be a fact of material, observable reality, it is nothing more than a highly ritualized, highly symbolized algorithm belonging entirely to the realm of abstract cogitation.  

The novus ordo sect fanatically propagates and defends heliocentrism and its choirboy, Galileo, not because it is defending a true scientific discovery, but precisely because it is a rabid modernist/satanist/pythagorianist cult.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:16 pm


"I've got no problem banning you since you're not even a member of Laconics Round Table, and so far have gone by at least 3 aliases in your short stint here. Your posts are 90% either provocation or irrelevant to the generally cohesive focus of our forum.

Be relevant or you're done here."

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:33 pm

The Vendée Globe yacht race




The Vendée Globe is a round-the-world single-handed yacht race, sailed non-stop and without assistance.[1] The race was founded by Philippe Jeantot in 1989,[2] and since 1992 has taken place every four years. The 2016–2017 edition is planned to start on Sunday, 6 November 2016.[3]

As the only single-handed non-stop round-the-world race (in contrast to the VELUX 5 Oceans Race, which is sailed in stages), the race is a serious test of individual endurance, and is regarded by many as the ultimate in ocean racing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendée_Globe


Sailing between Antarctica and the other continents, circling Antarctica completely, a compass pointing south will always point in the direction of Antarctica. This is how ships sail without radar or GPS.


Ship's compasses

Declination and deviation don't matter so much if you're on foot with a map or in a car; generally, there are other things you can use to help you find your way and it's hardly catastrophic if you take a wrong turn or two. On a ship, far from land and in bad weather (so you can't navigate by the sky), it's a whole different matter. Before technological advances like GPS and radar came along, people's lives depended on navigating accurately by compass alone. That's why ship's compasses (sometimes called mariner's compasses) were much more sophisticated than the ones people typically used on land. In a modern ship's compass, the compass card is attached to a float with a number of magnetic needles underneath it and spins freely inside a large glass bowl filled with a mixture of alcohol and water (to minimize friction and absorb vibrations from the moving ship). The whole thing is mounted on gimbals (pivots) in a stand called a binnacle so it stays horizontal even when the ship is pitching (moving up and down) and rolling (rocking from side to side) in the waves.


http://www.explainthatstuff.com/how-compasses-work.html

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:25 pm

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There is a saying that applies to you.
It is easier to lie to someone,  than tell him he has been lied to.

I have personally witnessed (as I'm sure we all have) the angles of the sun (and moon) at different latitudes. I'm also not sure where that leaves us with regard to how seasons work.

You won't touch the ISS argument which pretty-much destroys flat-earth.
But mumbo-jumbo from some masonic ritual should be convincing?

You are not being reasonable, Walt.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:41 pm

OldTimes wrote:
WaltD wrote:
There is a saying that applies to you.
It is easier to lie to someone,  than tell him he has been lied to.

I have personally witnessed (as I'm sure we all have) the angles of the sun (and moon) at different latitudes.
OK



 
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I'm also not sure where that leaves us with regard to how seasons work.
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You won't touch the ISS argument which pretty-much destroys flat-earth.
Its the first time Ive had it thrown at me, as I addressed multiple points and questions YOU made, Youve however have addressed few of mine. Maybe you can tell us all why not a single explorer has traversed the earth North to South or South To North in the year 2015.
And sorry, Nothing destroys flat earth (4 corners), and The Bible TRUMPS ISS


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But mumbo-jumbo from some masonic ritual should be convincing?
Ive found that to be the case generally. Everything they celebrate epitomizes evil and a win for Satan.

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You are not being reasonable, Walt.

I think its unfair of you to say that, Ive not attacked, mocked or shamed you as You have me. I simply have a different point of view which I believe has tremendous merit and deserves a look.  For you, a resource below:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,13876.0.html#.Vcu8etbrhht


Seasons / Day and Night


Day and night cycles
Day and night cycles are easily explained on a flat earth. The sun moves in circles around the North Pole. When it is over your head, it's day. When it's not, it's night. The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves. The picture below illustrates how the sun moves and also how seasons work on a flat earth:




When the sun is further away from the North Pole, it's winter in the northern hemiplain (or hemisphere) and summer in the south.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:26 pm

This all assumes we live in a Pac Man world where once you get to one side of the flat surface, you magically appear on the other side.


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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:35 pm

Very true, FJ

But of course our (flat) earth is not Pac man like at all really.

I also found this notion to be almost crazy insane when it was brought to me from a reliable and long standing friend. I couldnt grasp it, but let him have his say.
I was skeptical for weeks. I looked at it. I slowly warmed to the notion.
I remembered what I had read and saw in the Bible, and thought about that tumultuous time of the French Revolution, Pre and Post, and knew this was a coup for Freemasonry via Galileo.
I also knew NASA was a total fraud and it got me where I am now.

For some beginners, asserting Jewry runs the world' is complete insanity. There is shock factor.
But this seems to be even more 'insanity' to already very educated people, such as we have on this board.
Im glad we had the discussion though, and I hope if nothing else some minds were opened.
Damn the Freemasons to Hell.




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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:58 pm

WaltD wrote:

For some beginners, asserting Jewry runs the world' is complete insanity. There is shock factor.


I would say that's much more verifiable, resonant (and relevant, dire), than the topic of flat earth, but fair enough. The Jewish Problem is the most important topic of all, related to daily life and struggle, for anyone in the world. Everything else pales.

That, and examples of heroism, bravery, cunning, and triumph - paths to victory (even if short lived, historically) - for us to pass on and bring with us into the future.


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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:17 am

Agreed FJ, but there is a cognitive dissonance on the Jewry question for many people especially the baby boomer generation, its somewhat understandable considering the disinfo, propoganda and portrayal as perpetual innocent victims...ie Spielberg Movies, Holocaust propoganda ad nausium, and warm and loving wacky Seinfeld issues, and castigation of anything and everything German as it relates to Yids.

For some, Flat Earth is an easier concept to grasp, than Jewrys destruction of our world. For others the inverse is true.
In time, both proponants will be vindicated. The truth cannot be suppressed forever.

There was a time I might've questioned my own sanity when hit with both of these issues long ago.
But Ive always maintained an open mind, and though while not real intelligent, Im smart enough to know Ive been lied to most of my life, if not all of my life. And I seek answers.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:05 pm

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For some,  Flat Earth is an easier concept to grasp,  than Jewrys destruction of our world. For others the inverse is true.
In time, both proponants will be vindicated.  The truth cannot be suppressed forever.

Let's just say that it's not a requirement to believe in flat earth in order to be proactively jew wise. To many, the association of the former is seen as a means of discrediting the legitimacy of the latter. It's not a vital topic of association, in the here-and-now. But it has still been interesting to see yours and others' takes on the subject.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:11 pm

Thank you and very much agreed.

It may not be vital-for now, but they are actually running scared, the views on Youtube are in the hundreds of thousands.
NASA is a proven fraud. Trillions spent, phony space exploration nonsense.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:13 pm



The globus cruciger (Latin, "cross-bearing orb"), also known as the orb and cross, is an orb (lat. globus) topped (lat. gerere = to wear) with a cross (lat. crux), a Christian symbol of authority used throughout the Middle Ages and even today on coins, iconography, and royal regalia. It symbolises Christ's (the cross) dominion over the world (the orb).
When held by Christ himself, the subject is known in the iconography of Western art as Salvator Mundi ("Saviour of the World")




“We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth’s circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe. … For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides.”

St. Bede the venerable (673-735)


   “The physicist proves the earth to be round by one means, the astronomer by another: for the latter proves this by means of mathematics, e.g. by the shapes of eclipses, or something of the sort; while the former proves it by means of physics, e.g. by the movement of heavy bodies towards the centre, and so forth.”


Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274),  Summa Theologica/Theologiae


John de Sacrobosco (1195 – 1256 ) , wrote the tractate De sphaera mundi which contains a clear description of the Earth as a sphere
As proof, he uses the fact that stars rise and set sooner for those in the east, and lunar eclipses happen earlier; that stars near the North Pole are visible to those further north and those in the south can see different ones; that at sea one can see further by climbing up the mast; and that water seeks its natural shape which is round, as a drop.


Walt, the Catholic church never taught flat earth nonsense, It's a myth propagated by jewish anti-christians to make christians look retarded. An assualt on the Christian credibility in an effort to drive people away from Christ.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:54 pm

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The globus cruciger (Latin, "cross-bearing orb"), also known as the orb and cross, is an orb (lat. globus) topped (lat. gerere = to wear) with a cross (lat. crux), a Christian symbol of authority used throughout the Middle Ages and even today on coins, iconography, and royal regalia. It symbolises Christ's (the cross) dominion over the world (the orb).
When held by Christ himself, the subject is known in the iconography of Western art as Salvator Mundi ("Saviour of the World")




“We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth’s circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe. … For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides.”

St. Bede the venerable (673-735)


   “The physicist proves the earth to be round by one means, the astronomer by another: for the latter proves this by means of mathematics, e.g. by the shapes of eclipses, or something of the sort; while the former proves it by means of physics, e.g. by the movement of heavy bodies towards the centre, and so forth.”


Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274),  Summa Theologica/Theologiae


John de Sacrobosco (1195 – 1256 ) , wrote the tractate De sphaera mundi which contains a clear description of the Earth as a sphere
As proof, he uses the fact that stars rise and set sooner for those in the east, and lunar eclipses happen earlier; that stars near the North Pole are visible to those further north and those in the south can see different ones; that at sea one can see further by climbing up the mast; and that water seeks its natural shape which is round, as a drop.


Walt, the Catholic church never taught flat earth nonsense, It's a myth propagated by jewish anti-christians to make christians look retarded. An assualt on the Christian credibility in an effort to drive people away from Christ.

You really CANT Be This Stupid, can you?

Why in the Hell do you think an Inquisition was formed around Galileo and Heliocentrism?
It was Heresy then,  and was for 300 yrs post his death. It defies GOD and our Bible. It alone IS Anti God. And Anti Church.

Again, its not a Pac Man flat earth.  I showed you images.
Here they are again.



The earth IS Non moving and immovable however. ie essentially FLAT but/though round in shape.  On that we dont argue.
On Freemasonrys heliocentrism, we do.




Saint Bellarmine made this clear in his discussion of Galileo's writings in 1616:

"I say that if there were a true demonstration that the sun is at the centre of the world and the earth in the third heaven, and that the sun does not circle the earth but the earth circles the sun, then one would have to proceed with great care in explaining the Scriptures that appear contrary, and say rather that we do not understand them than that what is demonstrated is false.

Nor is it the same to demonstrate that by assuming the sun to be at the centre and the earth in heaven one can save the appearances, and to demonstrate that in truth the sun is at the centre and the earth in heaven; for I believe the first demonstration may be available, but I  have very great doubts about the second, and in case of doubt one must not abandon the Holy Scripture as interpreted by the Holy Fathers."


READ BELLERMINE'S WORDS.
YOURE INTERPRETATION  AND EXALTATION OF GALIELO AND HELIOCENTRISM ABANDONS SCRIPTURES.
THE EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, IT DOES NOT ROTATE.
QUIT ARGUING FOR FREEMASONRY UNLESS YOU DENOUNCE YOUR FAITH AND THE SCRIPTURES.

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:39 pm

WaltD wrote:


You really CANT Be This Stupid, can you?




Apparantly you can. Walt you do realize in order for a light source to become a spotlight it needs a shade and preferably even a fresnel lens to prevent light going everywhere and instead focus it downwards? Now do you see this "lampshade" around the sun Walt ? or perhaps "barndoors" , So your spotlight hypothesis is bull, In fact in case of flat earth it means ligth to one  part is ligth to all parts as the sun rays are not confined nor barred to shine in every direction possible. Unless you want to insinuate that the sun is flat too ?



The sun according to Walt



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The earth IS Non moving and immovable however. ie essentially FLAT but/though round in shape.  On that we dont argue.
we certainly argue on that , the earth spins and moves  

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On Freemasonrys heliocentrism, we do.
Neither our earth, our sun nor our galaxy are at the centre of the universe..


you can actually see the centre of our galaxy from earth with your own eyes

our galaxy contains approx 300 billion suns and many more planets. they move, we move, everything moves.


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Saint Bellarmine made this clear in his discussion of Galileo's writings in 1616:


and say rather that we do not understand them than that what is demonstrated is false.

Do you actually comprehend what he is saying Walt ? he says it is better to state that we don't seem to understand scriptures than to declare something that is demonstratingly proven to be true to be untrue.



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QUIT ARGUING FOR FREEMASONRY UNLESS YOU DENOUNCE YOUR FAITH AND THE SCRIPTURES.
wow Walt, that's rather assumptious, a tad ignorant and blatantly stupid thing to do, not to mention you embarass Catholicism with this extremist yelling demanding submission to your 'faith' or else,  a behaviour which usually is only known from hasidic jews and IS jihadi's. It's definitely not the Catholic approach. YOu may not realize it yet Walt but you are a Protestant.

This is not as much about a spherical earth being supposedly flat as it is about you losing your marbles

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PostSubject: Re: Time Lapse Proves Flat Earth?   Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:03 pm

WRONG.

THEY GOT TO CATHOLICS, unless of course you now also claim that they dont nor havent, that Vatican 2 is legitimate, The French Revolution legit, that 1900 years of Orthodoxy thrown out the window post Vatican 2 is progress, that apologizing to
J EWs and Muslims for our so called rotten behavior to them rather than the inverse is just, that visiting Synagogues and Mosques, ALL Forbidden under threats of being anathematized by 250+ Previous Popes was valid, that praying with with the Dali Lama and having Buddha placed on The Altar was Legit, that Rothschilds takeover of the Vatican Bank in the 1820s was to the Churchs betterment.

If you cant connect dots and see correlation,, youre an idiot.
Same is true with Heliocentrism.
Here are a few questions Id like you to answer for me....

1. Do you Deny that NASA is a Fraud?  Yes or NO?
Is it coincidence that Galileo has Masonic lodges named after him?  Yes or No
3. Is it coincidence that Galileo was exhumed and given a proper Masonic burial? Yes or No
4. Is it strange that not one explorer, pilot, or daredevil has ever circumnavigated the Globe North South?  Yes or No
5. That the Bible both Old and New Testament state firmly '4 corners of the earth' and that the Bible and its writers, inspired by GOD, were wrong? Yes or No


Ill get to the sun later. You change topics like you change hats because thats all you have...
Answer my 5 simple questions now.

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