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PostSubject: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:02 am

As Russia is helping out president Assad of Syria , Russian airforce is bombing ISIS and destroying their supply routes , Turkish officials are angered over violation of their airspace by a Russian military plane.

The turkish government demanded answers from the Russian ambassador, but i doubt the turks will want to give answers on how and why  the supply lines lead back to Turkey.

Turkey, The heirs of the late Ottoman empire, 2nd biggest army in NATO after the Americans



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How big is the role of Turkey actually in world affairs and are They the ones secretly scheming to get their shit back after loosing it all in WW1 ?

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:48 am

Odd that the US gov't and jewish media "experts" aren't barking their heads off over the Russian actions. When they are not barking, they tend to be planning and/or maneuvering.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:07 pm

Turkey is a puppet state. Not that it even has to be said, but this a war for Israel. Israel will never accept a sovereign Syria.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:08 pm

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Odd that the US gov't and jewish media "experts" aren't barking their heads off over the Russian actions. When they are not barking, they tend to be planning and/or maneuvering.

Not a lot jews and 'experts' can bark about without looking like the villains they are or exposing themselves counterintuitively to the public, with Russia's entry at the moment --- until a U.S. plane or vessel gets 'mysteriously' blown up (now who would do such a thing), which will be blamed on whoever jews want it blamed on.

Lots of powder keg false flag potential with Russia + U.S. flying the same airspace and championing separate forces on the ground, and major Mideast players converging - Iran & Hezbollah (die hard anti-Israel forces), Turkey & Saudis (pro-Israel proxies) et al. And Israel is right there in proximity...

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:50 pm

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wag wrote:
Odd that the US gov't and jewish media "experts" aren't barking their heads off over the Russian actions. When they are not barking, they tend to be planning and/or maneuvering.

Not a lot jews and 'experts' can bark about without looking like the villains they are or exposing themselves counterintuitively to the public, with Russia's entry at the moment --- until a U.S. plane or vessel gets 'mysteriously' blown up (now who would do such a thing), which will be blamed on whoever jews want it blamed on.

Lots of powder keg false flag potential with Russia + U.S. flying the same airspace and championing separate forces on the ground, and major Mideast players converging - Iran & Hezbollah (die hard anti-Israel forces), Turkey & Saudis (pro-Israel proxies) et al. And Israel is right there in proximity...


False flag now would be dicey due to the fact that the Russians are watching closely.  They must have very good intel to have all the specific bombing targets.  I would expect the Pentagon to soon counter with some rules of engagement/santuary crap they want to impose on the Russian bombing to protect their proxy/agents.  The women and children angle is ripe for the pickins.  Last thing they want is a successful Russia-Syria-Iran coalition.  The situation teeters.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:22 pm

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False flag now would be dicey due to the fact that the Russians are watching closely.  They must have very good intel to have all the specific bombing targets.  I would expect the Pentagon to soon counter with some rules of engagement/santuary crap they want to impose on the Russian bombing to protect their proxy/agents.  The women and children angle is ripe for the pickins.  Last thing they want is a successful Russia-Syria-Iran coalition.  The situation teeters.

What will the step-n-fetchit do after Putin advances the ground forces? Oh wait, that's already under way...

The Russians don't f**k around when it comes to warfare, once it's begun.


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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:51 am

Turkish Prime minister Erdogan proposed to take in all refugees if the EU accepts Turkey as a full member state.

Millions of turks already live in European countries ( Germany has 3 million turks ) and many of them are working their way into government.

Since Kemal Ataturk founded the republic of Turkey, Turkey has known a strict separation between religion and state  ( ie islamic headscarfs were not allowed in public buildings ) and whenever Islam got to prominent in state affairs , The army would intervene and restore the boundaries,
That was until this Erdogan and his Islamic party got into power and quietly managed to arrest the military Generals and purge the military of opponents to his Islamic rule.


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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:51 pm

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That was until this Erdogan and his Islamic party got into power and quietly managed to arrest the military Generals and purge the military of opponents to his Islamic rule.

At least as far as the Mideast players go, this war isn't about who is 'more Islamic' and who is less, but rather who are zio-puppets (subservient to Israel), and who aren't.


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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:03 pm

Looks like Turkey may be about to play a 'Poland-esque' role of conflict escalation.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:27 am

Re: CNN 10/6/15
War crimes ambassador: Russia, al-Assad regime vulnerable to prosecution
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/06/world/rapp-syria-amanpour/index.html

Members of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime could be prosecuted in national courts outside Syria -- and Russia could be vulnerable to prosecution for backing them -- a long-time American war crimes official told CNN's Christiane Amanpour on Tuesday.

"These are men, women, and children tortured to death, eyes gouged out, etc. That is not the way that you build the future of Syria," said Stephen Rapp, who until August had served for six years as the U.S. State Department's ambassador-at-large for war crimes issues.

"This kind of criminal conduct can't be condoned, and people that go in on his side are endangering themselves in terms of being prosecuted."

"We've had these sorts of cases where people who support proxy forces can be held responsible. I don't think that should be the focus here, because the focus is al-Assad ... but it is important to recognize that going in to support him is also something in which you" allow human rights abuses to continue.
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Stephen Rapp


They'll need a court like the one which held Libya responsible for Lockerbie.  If push comes to shove and Russia loses interest in playing nice with diplomacy, this kind of finger pointing could quickly turn into weapons pointing.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:34 pm

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Turkey is a puppet state. Not that it even has to be said, but this a war for Israel. Israel will never accept a sovereign Syria.
Turkey was supposed to be a puppet state, but what if Erdogan is getting out of control ?

Erdogan  talks alot about the Ottoman Empire. Slowly yet increasingly removing Ataturk from the public view and replacing Ataturk's imagery with his own from statues to schoolbooks depicting Erdogan as the savior of Turks, The secular big city turks despise Erdogan but the rural muslim turks adore him as if he's a prophet.
Eventhough his political education stems from American-Israeli schooling specifically the teachings of Fethullah Gulen and they are the ones who put him in power, It appears he may have turned against his " benefactors " and thinks himself to be the new Khalif. His newly attained power feeding his arrogance.

Turks by character appear humble and compliant, Don't be fooled by their submissive appearance because they actually feel superior, They will sell you a cheap doner kebab with a friendly smile, but in the storage room of the bakery the imported sacks of flower are stuffed with Afghan heroin to sell to your children. Taking over Europe one kebab shop at a time..  

 

Fethullah Gulen, Mentor of Erdogan .The US Times called him one of the most influential persons for his peacefull teachings, He lives in the US with 25 billion dollar in heroin money, Which he uses to spread Islam with the opening of many madrassahs


Erdogan is suspected of being a jew..
So does the Turk Erdogan want a new ottoman Empire, Or does the jew Erdogan want an Islamic empire because it is so usefull and is compatible with Judaism

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:29 pm

Looks more Sicilian mobster.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:01 am




I'm suspicious of the whole Russian incursion in the middle east. Putin is tight with the Russian jewish community and Israel seems apathetic to the whole scenario.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:39 am

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I'm suspicious of the whole Russian incursion in the middle east. Putin is tight with the Russian jewish community and Israel seems apathetic to the whole scenario.

It's definitely something to think about in the midst of all this... Especially when considering the 'immigration' / 'refugee' (in reality, invasion) dynamic. Even if Russia is working ouside of jewish 'control', one has to imagine they still want to see Europe and America weakened on the whole - not necessarily our jewish usurpers' paradigm, but a more crippling goal - our societies... I was reading an article in 'Sputnik' today that was strangely pro-invasion-of-Europe (though they tried to be subtle) and it gave me a big moment of pause...

So far it's almost impossible to not cheer on what Russia has done in Syria, at least for me and I imagine many others of our stripe. But this is still the early stage in something way bigger - the world is going through a transformation, and America (the people) is still the big key to the entire thing. I'm tired of the outward focus away from America, away from our internal struggles -- yeah there's a lot going on - the world just got a whole lot smaller... But everything that happens here is what will make the difference everywhere else. But then when Americans focus inward, the triggered nausea sets in. Americans get too divided and psyched out (arresting their will to win) by the most minute of perspectives and pieces of information -- this needs to change, with the utmost urgency. Snoresville needs to become Thorsville.

“America’s battle is yet to fight; and we, sorrowful though nothing doubting, will wish her strength for it. New Spiritual Pythons, plenty of them, enormous Megatherions, as ugly as were ever born of mud, loom huge and hideous out of the twilight Future on America; and she will have her own agony, and her own victory, but on other terms than she is yet quite aware of."

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sat Oct 10, 2015 8:06 am

Putin's Russia is not the same as Stalin's soviet Russia, Where Stalin was pure Judeosatanic hellspawn and his army flew the hammer and sickle flag,

Putin is a Orthodox Christian and his army flies the flag of St. Andrew.

Meanwhile The US and Europe is judeosatanic illuminati ruled and is still executing old plans designed to topple former soviet Russia while nobody seems to realize those plans have become obsolete decades ago.
Meanwhile they drive the native Europeans to extinction and flood their cities with semitic trash.

Basically the Rus ( originally vikings from Denmark ) invasion of Europe will be the only option left to restore Europe to it's original people because in about 20-30 years the Moors are in full control,

Right now european individuals are getting disowned of their land as the government confiscates it to build refugee camps and Mosques.










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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:58 pm

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Putin's Russia is not the same as Stalin's soviet Russia, Where Stalin was pure Judeosatanic hellspawn and his army flew the hammer and sickle flag,

Putin is a Orthodox Christian and his army flies the flag of St. Andrew.

Meanwhile The US and Europe is judeosatanic illuminati ruled and is still executing old plans designed to topple former soviet Russia while nobody seems to realize those plans have become obsolete decades ago.
Meanwhile they drive the native Europeans to extinction and flood their cities with semitic trash.

Basically the Rus ( originally vikings from Denmark ) invasion of Europe will be the only option left to restore Europe to it's original people because in about 20-30 years the Moors are in full control,

Right now european individuals are getting disowned of their land as the government confiscates it to build refugee camps and Mosques.

Good to see you changed your tune on Putin.  He's a game changer, has the jews flat-footed and stuttering for words.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:20 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/11/world/europe/ankara-turkey-explosion-deaths.html

ISTANBUL — Two devastating explosions struck Saturday morning in the heart of Ankara, the Turkish capital, killing more than 80 people who had gathered for a peace rally and heightening tensions just three weeks before snap parliamentary elections.

At least 86 people were killed and 186 were wounded, said the health minister, Mehmet Muezzinoglu.

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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in a short statement posted to the presidency’s website, said, “I strongly condemn this heinous attack on our unity and our country’s peace.”

Selahattin Demirtas, the leader of the H.D.P., which faced several attacks during the election campaign ahead of national elections in June, spoke to reporters on Saturday in Istanbul, making comments that seemed to, in veiled fashion, refer to political rallies in support of Mr. Erdogan and his Islamist Justice and Development Party, known by the initials of its Turkish name, A.K.P. “Gang leaders can hold safe rallies in this country, but those who want peace are murdered,” Mr. Demirtas said.

He also lashed out more directly at the Turkish state, saying: “We are faced with a murderous mob state. How is it possible that a state with such a strong intelligence network did not have prior information on the attack?”

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:58 pm

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Putin's Russia is not the same as Stalin's soviet Russia, Where Stalin was pure Judeosatanic hellspawn and his army flew the hammer and sickle flag,

Putin is a Orthodox Christian and his army flies the flag of St. Andrew.

Meanwhile The US and Europe is judeosatanic illuminati ruled and is still executing old plans designed to topple former soviet Russia while nobody seems to realize those plans have become obsolete decades ago.
Meanwhile they drive the native Europeans to extinction and flood their cities with semitic trash.

Basically the Rus ( originally vikings from Denmark ) invasion of Europe will be the only option left to restore Europe to it's original people because in about 20-30 years the Moors are in full control,

Right now european individuals are getting disowned of their land as the government confiscates it to build refugee camps and Mosques.

I like: the Russians in Russia - they're an example of the kind of cultural and political transformation that would be good for the West to take. I like: the Russians in the Mideast - they seems to stand for the right sides. I don't like: the Russians in Europe and/or America - Europe is for Europeans and America is for Americans.

Putin seems like a 'groovy dude'. I guess I got off the fence a while back and am currently 60/40 in favor, maybe until the nuke talk starts bubbling... My stance is still that whether one decides he's for real or not, Russia can't and will not 'save' Europe and America -- only Europeans and Americans can do that. The source of global world war escalation and cultural/ethnic deterioration of Europe and America, is the Jewish Problem in Europe and America, bottom line. And the only ones who can change this situation and take back our future, are Europeans and Americans.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:43 am

Russians in America are more like Cubans in America. They toe the anti home country line. Same with many Syrians, which has heavily contributed to the regime change putsch.
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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:11 am

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Russians in America are more like Cubans in America. They toe the anti home country line. Same with many Syrians, which has heavily contributed to the regime change putsch.

The US gov't/zio-media uses these malcontents as expedients to pursue their zionism and resource grabs.  The US is just a thug's hammer at this point.  

Consider that no sane US malcontent who leaves the US for say Russia or China would even consider asking those countries to force regime change in the US, nor would those gov't consider it for a second. 

As FJ implies, people need to lead themselves, need to address their own issues internally, need to speak the truth and put actions to the words.  Otherwise, all you have is zionism or form of imperialism.

The battle is not with bombs, but with hearts and minds.  There hasn't been that comprehensive big awakening yet, but Putin smells like coffee over here.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:46 am

wag wrote:
puckatawk wrote:
Russians in America are more like Cubans in America. They toe the anti home country line. Same with many Syrians, which has heavily contributed to the regime change putsch.

The US gov't/zio-media uses these malcontents as expedients to pursue their zionism and resource grabs.  The US is just a thug's hammer at this point.  

Consider that no sane US malcontent who leaves the US for say Russia or China would even consider asking those countries to force regime change in the US, nor would those gov't consider it for a second. 

As FJ implies, people need to lead themselves, need to address their own issues internally, need to speak the truth and put actions to the words.  Otherwise, all you have is zionism or form of imperialism.

The battle is not with bombs, but with hearts and minds.  There hasn't been that comprehensive big awakening yet, but Putin smells like coffee over here.

Right on.

Nobody is going to do anything for us... Each person has unique gifts within that they can contribute to the winning of hearts and minds, everywhere, every day -- they just have to believe in their own individual power, and the power of a united people, its actualization in reality. This 'belief' is a realism.

Think about what Putin said about what he admired about Americans (I would say Europeans as well).

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:10 pm

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Think about what Putin said about what he admired about Americans (I would say Europeans as well).

Wait. What does Putin admire about Americans?

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:41 pm

Wait, why is the US carrier group now leaving the Med?  

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/10/13/tr-carrier-strike-group-wraps-up-operations-in-5th-fleet.html

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:43 pm

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Think about what Putin said about what he admired about Americans (I would say Europeans as well).

Wait.  What does Putin admire about Americans?


He said, our creativity, not our bravery.

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PostSubject: Re: Russia bombs ISIS , Turkey pissed   Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:21 am

OldTimes wrote:
FrontierJustice wrote:
Think about what Putin said about what he admired about Americans (I would say Europeans as well).

Wait.  What does Putin admire about Americans?


Suggestive of 'problem solving'...




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