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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:14 pm


  • 14:43 GMT

    Russian MPs submit bill on holding to account those denying Armenian genocide

    The opposition Just Russia party has submitted a bill to parliament on holding to account anyone who denies that the 1915 killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turkish forces was a “genocide,” Reuters reported. “We have just submitted a bill on responsibility for failure to acknowledge the fact of a genocide of Armenians by Turkey,” the party’s leader, Sergey Mironov said on his Twitter account. The statement came a day after the Turkish Air Force shot down a Russian jet over Syria.

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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:38 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:48 am

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we may have a similar ultimate origin, but from different 'parentages'. One thing I am confident of though, is that pre-jew Jews and Indo-Europeans had an emnity long before 'Abraham' sprang on the scene.





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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:55 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:08 pm

Jews pushing hard for WW3.


Vladimir Zhirinovsky
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Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, born Vladimir Volfovich Eidelstein on 25 April 1946, is a Russian politician and political activist. Wikipedia
Born: April 25, 1946 (age 69), Almaty, Kazakhstan
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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:36 am

Erdogan is  an insane megalomaniac , not only did he let his army shoot down the russian plane, the pilots parachuting down and blow up the rescue helicopter.

He also said Putin shouldn't react so emotional, in other words "Putin stop being such a crybaby"
Apparantly Erdogan thinks himself powerfull enough to show such arrogance.

Russia simply cannot tolerate this blunt show of disrespect or soon others will do the same,


eventhough it's another provocation trying to drag russia into an allout war, they will propably retaliate in a more subtle covert way
but anyway some turks are going to bleed for this.

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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:15 am

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Erdogan is  an insane megalomaniac , not only did he let his army shoot down the russian plane, the pilots parachuting down and blow up the rescue helicopter.

He also said Putin shouldn't react so emotional, in other words "Putin stop being such a crybaby"
Apparantly Erdogan thinks himself powerfull enough to show such arrogance.

Russia simply cannot tolerate this blunt show of disrespect or soon others will do the same,


eventhough it's another provocation trying to drag russia into an allout war, they will propably retaliate in a more subtle covert way
but anyway some turks are going to bleed for this.

So Vidar, you take the jew side on this, that we need WW3?  No, it's the West that controls Turkey via economics.  The shoot-downs had the green light. 




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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:57 am

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So Vidar, you take the jew side on this, that we need WW3?  No, it's the West that controls Turkey via economics.  The shoot-downs had the green light. 




Where'd you get that from ? , I'm surely not looking forward to WW3. And the west doesn't control Turkey, instead Turkey is shaking down the west. Erdogan offered Europe " to help" with the refugee crisis ( nee : stopping turks from migrating for financial benefits of europe ) but only after Europe pays 3 billion dollars to Erdogan , Allow visa free travelling of Turks through Europe and speeds up the process of Turkey becoming a full member of the EU.

All demands have been granted.

Turkish economy is doing very well, they don't need the west to survive economically. Neither do they need the Russians.

The west and Turkey are playing chicken with Russia, But Putin can't allow to be spat in the face. Such humilation would make him loose credibility to the world and in Russia self. Putin might not want to set off WW3 but the possibility of a Turkish airliner suddenly dropping out of the sky increased tremendously or Erdogan might developing some rare cancer from polonium poisoning.
But retaliation there will be.



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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:29 pm

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So Vidar, you take the jew side on this, that we need WW3?  No, it's the West that controls Turkey via economics.  The shoot-downs had the green light. 

Where'd you get that from ? , I'm surely not looking forward to WW3. And the west doesn't control Turkey, instead Turkey is shaking down the west. Erdogan offered Europe " to help"  with the refugee crisis  ( nee : stopping turks from migrating for financial benefits of europe ) but only after Europe pays 3 billion dollars to Erdogan , Allow visa free travelling of Turks through Europe and speeds up the process of Turkey becoming a full member of the EU.

All demands have been granted.

Turkish economy is doing very well, they don't need the west to survive economically. Neither do they need the Russians.  

The west and Turkey are playing chicken with Russia, But Putin can't allow to be spat in the face. Such humilation would make him loose credibility to the world and in Russia self. Putin might not want to set off WW3 but the possibility of a Turkish airliner suddenly dropping out of the sky increased tremendously or Erdogan might developing some rare cancer from polonium poisoning.
But retaliation there will be.
 

Oh come on.  Turkey would be nothing without Western support and technology.  Turkey is prime real estate; a lot goes through it, and they play middleman for a lot of illicit jewish transactions.  But Turkey is no mover/shaker, more just an opportunist for the broader zionism.  Jews could have them set up, but they wouldn't go out on a limb on their own initiative.

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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:47 pm

You seem to forget that the Turks ran a bigger empire than the Europeans ever did only 100 years ago.
They know how to run an empire , how to scheme and plot in politics, make friends and enemies and how to conquer territories.

While everybody was looking at the drunken brawl between the US and Russia they were quietly working their own game.




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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:52 am

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You seem to forget that the Turks ran a bigger empire than the Europeans ever did only  100 years ago.
They know how to run an empire , how to scheme and plot in politics, make friends and enemies and how to conquer territories.

While everybody was looking at the drunken brawl between the US and Russia they were quietly working their own game.  

US didn't know & condone, and no Jews were in on it?! Rolling Eyes



Russia says it has proof Turkey involved in Islamic State oil trade

MOSCOW | By Maria Tsvetkova and Lidia Kelly

Russia's defence ministry said on Wednesday it had proof that Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan and his family were benefiting from the illegal smuggling of oil from Islamic State-held territory in Syria and Iraq.

Moscow and Ankara have been locked in a war of words since last week when a Turkish air force jet shot down a Russian warplane near the Syrian-Russian border, the most serious incident between Russia and a NATO state in half a century.


In a briefing in Moscow, defence ministry officials displayed satellite images which they said showed columns of tanker trucks loading with oil at installations controlled by Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, and then crossing the border into neighbouring Turkey.


The officials did not specify what direct evidence they had of the involvement of Erdogan and his family, an allegation that the Turkish president has vehemently denied.


"Turkey is the main consumer of the oil stolen from its rightful owners, Syria and Iraq. According to information we've received, the senior political leadership of the country - President Erdogan and his family - are involved in this criminal business," said Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov.


"Maybe I'm being too blunt, but one can only entrust control over this thieving business to one's closest associates."


"In the West, no one has asked questions about the fact that the Turkish president's son heads one of the biggest energy companies, or that his son has been appointed energy minister. What a marvellous family business!"


"The cynicism of the Turkish leadership knows no limits. Look what they're doing. They went into someone else's country, they are robbing it without compunction," Antonov said.


The ministry also alleged that the same criminal networks which were smuggling oil from Islamic State-held areas into Turkey were also supplying weapons, equipment and training to the militant group.


Officials said that the Russian air force's bombing campaign had made a significant dent in Islamic State's ability to produce, refine and sell oil.


Erdogan last week denied that Turkey procures oil from anything but legitimate sources. He has said Ankara is taking active steps to prevent smuggling of fuel, and he challenged anyone who accused his government of collaborating with Islamic State to prove their allegations.

Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/12/02/us-mideast-crisis-russia-turkey-idUSKBN0TL19S20151202#WdaQICetbbIDswL1.99

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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:22 pm

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US didn't know & condone, and no Jews were in on it?! Rolling Eyes


Wag, maybe your age makes you a bit slow.

Turks and Jews are in cahoots for 1400 years. Same modus operandi everytime, Jews slip into targeted country, open the gates for Turks/Muslims , attack native population, take over country from the inside.

The question is , who benefits most of the symbiose between jews and muslims. and do muslims fight for jews or do they have jews facilitate Islam.

Do they do this for judaic semites, do they do this for Islamic semites or do they just do it for semites.


Israel get $ billions of US dollars in financial aid.

Saudi Arabia gets $ trillions in oil money.

Was Stalin a Turk ?


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PostSubject: Re: Turks shoot down Russian fighter, Nato top Meeting   Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:15 pm

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US didn't know & condone, and no Jews were in on it?! Rolling Eyes




Wag, maybe your age makes you a bit slow.

Turks and Jews are in cahoots for 1400 years. Same modus operandi everytime, Jews slip into targeted country, open the gates for Turks/Muslims , attack native population, take over country from the inside.

The question is , who benefits most of the symbiose between jews and muslims. and do muslims fight for jews or do they have jews facilitate Islam.  

Do they do this for judaic semites, do they do this for Islamic semites or do they just do it for semites.
 

Israel get $ billions of US dollars in financial aid.

Saudi Arabia gets $ trillions in oil money.

Was Stalin a Turk ?    


Turkey acts as proxy of the West, at least has.  Next elections there should be interesting.

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