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PostSubject: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:58 am

http://www.pravdareport.com/society/stories/12-02-2016/133329-kissinger_putin-0/

On February 3, 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin had a meeting with Henry Kissinger, a US diplomat, former national security advisor and US Secretary of State. February 12, 2016 is said to be the date for an epoch-making meeting between the heads of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Krill and the head of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis.

Pravda.Ru talked about the historical significance of these two fateful meetings to member of the advisory board of the Center for Strategic Environment, member of the Russian-Iranian Council for Public Affairs, Alexander Sobyanin.

"What was the point of Henry Kissinger's visit to Moscow? Rumor has it that the meeting was devoted to global strategic objectives."

"Of course, it was an important visit because Kissinger is an outstanding figure in the American politics. The Bushes come and go, but people like Henry Kissinger stay. Such visits never happen for personal reasons. Such evens always happen for the sake of global and complicated issues, such as issues of Russian-American actions in the world, wars, global markets and revolutions. As a rule, the sides clearly describe their intentions and positions during such meetings - they do not negotiate."

"What could Henry Kissinger discuss with President Putin?"

"Most likely, it was the meeting about the Middle East. Russia, oil prices and Ukraine - these questions do not require Kissinger's presence in Moscow. In the Middle East, we can now eyewitness the establishment of the balance of all global forces.

"Putin and Kissinger met before in 2013. Kissinger remains in a very good shape intellectually. In his interviews, he always appears very reasonable and thoughtful. Henry Kissinger represents a certain group of the US political elite that includes the Bush clan. The world is rapidly moving towards the destruction of the current financial system. In these circumstances, those who own budgets of entire nations are looking for opportunities to save their money so that this money works when the current financial system disappears and a new financial system emerges. It should be understood that while the whole world and, unfortunately, Russia is involved in conflicts and political games, the Americans believe that it is them who set the rules of these games. They are also elaborating the rules for the time when the global domination of the US dollar ends.

"The US is now trying to change the world to the post-dollar world. Obviously, the world will no longer be global. With Putin, the Americans intend to establish tandem cooperation, despite the extremely aggressive political rhetoric against Russia. The US and Russia still cooperate on vital issues in most sensitive areas, including war, oil, investment, technology, etc. A variety of economic associations are being created now, and the Americans want to be leaders everywhere: BRICS, the Transatlantic Partnership, etc. They are working on all this very actively.

"In this battle, due to the fact that the US debt is snowballing, rescuing the US economy is impossible even if the whole Middle East is set on fire, we can see the two clans fighting to death - the Bushes and the Clintons. In this sense, the upcoming elections in the US will probably be the last, because America may change to become an absolutely different nation. In this battle, Madame Clinton is stronger.

"Henry Kissinger, who is currently in the Bush clan, came to Moscow to see what Russia finds more attractive - Clinton's new global world order, or a more nationally-oriented position of the Bush clan. Clearly, the new world order according to the Clintons and all sorts of societies such as the Soros Foundation are less acceptable for Russia. Henry Kissinger came to Russia at the time of the brutal struggle between two groups of bankers. The loser will have to deal with tens of trillions of dollars of US debt. While America is sinking to the bottom with its overwhelming debt, it needs to destroy someone inside to make them responsible for all those debts.

"Russia is a small, but an extremely important player on the world stage. We have not participated and will never participate in their domestic events, but it was Russia that became a key factor for the appearance of the United States and the Federal Reserve.

"Now is the epochal moment when Russia can determine the fate of the United States. It is only the US elite who can talk about it, and Henry Kissinger is a person, who represents the US elite.

"The Bush clan needs Russia's money, Russia's armed forces, Russia's political support to defeat the Clintons to subsequently destroy the entire group of bankers and making them responsible for the US national debt. For their part, they are ready to give Russia a weighty support in different areas."

"There is an opinion that Henry Kissinger came to support Putin after Owen's report. Some say that Kissinger is not the ruler of history, but rather a negotiator."

"I have read such opinions too. Henry Kissinger has a right to negotiate, to make decisions on the spot, but he is not a sherpa. Actually, what does it mean - "to support Putin?" Is Putin weak or what? In Russia, there is no anti-Putin sentiment among the elite, the people and the security forces. Why support the one who has all types of support already? Look at what happened after Putin's Munich speech. Does a person, who delivers a speech like that need media or some other form of support?"

"On February 12, 2016 the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill is to meet Pope Francis in Cuba. This is an unprecedented event. Why do top players - the United States, the Vatican, Germany, France - suddenly begin to seek mutual understanding with Russia?"

"This is definitely a landmark event that has its nuances, such as, for example, the fact that the Vatican Bank suffered from the attack of US banks. The Catholic financial system needs to ensure its security, and Russia can help them. The most important thing in the forthcoming meeting in Cuba is the meeting between the two Churches. The leaders of the Churches will speak about the need to renounce proselytism, ecumenism for the sake of understanding and union against the backdrop of two major threats.

"It goes about the loss of religious meaning in human life and aggressive movements in Islam. The most important goal is to bring faith back to people's lives. In recent history, there was a precedent, when in 2010, a delegation of the Roman Catholic Church, on behalf of Pope Benedict XVI, gifted relics of St. Andrew to the Metropolitan District of the Russian Orthodox Church in Kazakhstan."

Interview conducted by Nina Leontieva

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:07 pm

Pravda tends to spin some yarn every now and then.  It's China that can sway things, not Russia.  But what did they talk about?  I'd guess Syria and Turkey.  As for Bush and Clinton, good luck getting either on in the WH without a firestorm.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:32 pm

The description of a "bush clan vs clinton clan" rife in U.S. politics sounds like a pleasant way of describing the 2 wings of jewish political power.

Those jews behind the neo-con "bush clan" still see the U.S. military as the uni-polar force in the world for exporting dollar democracy and expanding Israel's borders and influence.

The jews lurking behind the so called "clinton clan" see global economic convergence by continuing the economic weakening of the U.S. for the eventual handing off of the baton to China. This will include a post-dollar global command economy that will keep the jewish financiers in their rightful positions of power through strict financial regulations and a monopoly on all resources.
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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:18 pm

amalgamy wrote:
"What was the point of Henry Kissinger's visit to Moscow? Rumor has it that the meeting was devoted to global strategic objectives."

Could have been to inform Putin that the USA was dropping the petrodollar strategy (coming from Kissinger would be straight from the horse's mouth on this).

This makes oil and natgas not worth piping across Syria, and therefore intended to diminish Putin's resolve there. Helping John Kerry, being on the same team.


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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:05 pm

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The description of a "bush clan vs clinton clan" rife in U.S. politics sounds like a pleasant way of describing the 2 wings of jewish political power.

Yep.  But not adding up that jews would solicit Putin.  I could more easily see them sending Henry with a paper threat of sorts, to which Putin would probably just smile while ripping up.  Russo-Sino relations are as good as they've ever been.  US still struggles to compete in outer space and lately even not so outer. 

The real message could have been "don't mess with our Japan", in light of the upcoming bilateral meetings.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/todays-news/169456/lavrov-to-discuss-kuril-islands-dispute-with-japan-in-april
Russia "has an interest in the closest and warmest relations with Japan," Lavrov said.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:12 pm

Kissinger is a WAR emissary.

Turkey is bombing the same kurdish forces that have allied with US to fight ISIS and Assad.
Erdogan is planning to invade Syria together with Saudia Arabia which will lead to direct confrontation with Russia.

Unfortunately Turkey is a NATO member and Erdogan is abusing the NATO oath of alliance ..
Turkey versus Russia means NATO versus Russia.
There are journalist and politicians now speaking of having entered the 3rd World War, Whereas Putin only spoke of a renewed cold war less than a week ago.

Kissinger is send to Russia as geopolitical heavyweight to bluff Putin into backing down.


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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:46 pm

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Obama-asks-Japanese-Prime-Minister-not-to-go-to-Russia-media-report.html


Obama asks Japanese Prime Minister not to go to Russia, media report

Feb 23 - 6:21 pm

US President Barack Obama during a telephone conversation asked the Prime Minister of Japan Shinzo Abe not to go to Russia, although the visit was planned for the beginning of May this year, Japanese media write.
The conversation took place on February 9th. "Now is not the time,’’ RBK quotes the US president with reference to Reuters, which, in turn, cites the Kyodo News. However, the opinion of the Japanese prime minister did not coincide with the point of view of Obama, and the conversation ended with no result.

Little story, with not so little impact, buried in the news feed.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:30 pm

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Obama asks Japanese Prime Minister not to go to Russia, media report




However, the opinion of the Japanese prime minister did not coincide with the point of view of Obama, and the conversation ended with no result.

Little story, with not so little impact, buried in the news feed.

What will be the punishment for the Japanese and their Mickey Mouse NIRP economy?
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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:35 pm

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What will be the punishment for the Japanese and their Mickey Mouse NIRP economy?

Continuation of bad jewy press for starters.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:15 am

Kissinger went to putin , afterwards russia declares that it distances itself from Assad's intentions to reconquer the whole of Syria and state that the Syrian people should decide.
Next the Russian defense Minister goes to Iran and afterwards Iran declares exactly the same.

Kissinger apparantly made them an offer they couldn't refuse. ( for the time being )

Now the Japanese prime minister flies to Russia and Obama begs the Japanese not to side with the Russian.

To bad Obama , you can't give them hiroshima , nagasaki and fukushima and expect them to do you any favors as part of your " Friendship".

These are major war negotiations.







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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:36 am

Japan’s top security official to visit US to discuss plans for dialogue with Moscow

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Earlier this month, US President Barack Obama asked the Japanese premier not to pay a visit to Russia this year

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TOKYO, February 25. /TASS/. Japan’s government has decided to send Head of National Security Council Shotaro Yachi to the US to clarify Tokyo’s plans to step up dialogue with Russia, NHK TV channel reported on Thursday.

Yachi will leave for Washington on Monday to hold talks with US National Security Advisor Susan Rice and other officials of the US administration. He seeks Washington’s understanding on plans of Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to visit Russia in late May ahead of G7 summit.

Tokyo hopes this will become a step forward in solving the problem over concluding a peace treaty with Moscow and resolving the decades-old territorial dispute with Russia over the Southern Kurils.

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Earlier this month, US President Barack Obama asked the Japanese premier in a phone conversation not to pay such a visit, Japan’s media reports said. The US leader said the reason was that the positions of Moscow and Washington on Ukraine and Syria differ, according to the Kyodo news agency said.

Last Saturday, the Japanese prime minister said he seeks to continue dialogue with Russian President Vladimir Putin to find the solution to the territorial dispute.

Russia and Japan have no peace treaty signed after World War II. Settlement of the problem inherited by Russia’s diplomacy from the Soviet Union is hampered by the years-long dispute over the four islands of Russia’s Southern Kurils - Shikotan, Khabomai, Iturup and Kunashir, which Japan calls its northern territories.

After World War II, in September 1945, Japan signed the capitulation, and in February 1946, the Kuril Islands were declared territories of the Soviet Union.

During the Cold War, Moscow did not recognize the territorial problem, but in October 1993, when Russian president Boris Yeltsin was on an official visit in Japan, the existence of the problem was confirmed officially. However, the two countries have reached no compromise over the dispute yet.

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http://tass.ru/en/world/858761

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:40 am

NATO has warned Turkey not to start conflict with Russia, Declared that NATO will not back Turkey if they do.
Turkish Membership of NATO is rumored to have been suspended for as long as Turkey is ruled by Erdogan.

Seems the West has had enough of his shit.




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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:13 pm

Apparantly today Putin announced it is pulling it's armed forces out of Syria..

It is also rumored that Putin is going to invade North Korea because of NK's nuclear threats.

So that could have been the deal Kissinger has made. Turks can have Syria and Russia gets to own North Korea.







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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:16 am

Vidarr wrote:

It is also rumored that Putin is going to invade North Korea because of NK's nuclear threats.

Where's the link?

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:03 pm

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Vidarr wrote:
It is also rumored that Putin is going to invade North Korea because of NK's nuclear threats.

Where's the link?

Looks like it's what Alex Jones is saying

http://www.infowars.com/live-russia-threatens-to-use-nukes/


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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:41 pm

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wag wrote:


Where's the link?

Looks like it's what Alex Jones is saying

http://www.infowars.com/live-russia-threatens-to-use-nukes/



I can understand it being solicited to the Alex Jones audience, but come on, aren't we above that here?

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:57 pm

wag wrote:
FrontierJustice wrote:
Looks like it's what Alex Jones is saying

http://www.infowars.com/live-russia-threatens-to-use-nukes/


I can understand it being solicited to the Alex Jones audience, but come on, aren't we above that here?

Some sort of source should at least be cited, either by a real headline, an author/host/name, or a link, right?

I think I remember OLW mentioning something to that effect early on after the creation of the forum.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:07 pm

FrontierJustice wrote:
wag wrote:


I can understand it being solicited to the Alex Jones audience, but come on, aren't we above that here?

Some sort of source should at least be cited, either by a real headline, an author/host/name, or a link, right?

I think I remember OLW mentioning something to that effect early on after the creation of the forum.


If you say it's a rumor, at least indicate the source of the rumor, yes. But just as good saying what you think. I say Putin has Kim under control when he meets with Abe later this year. I didn't read that anywhere.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:12 am

I´m not exactly sure where i picked it up but it could as well be some alex jones article..
That´s why i refer to it as a `rumor` and not as a fact or theory or anything else.
Facts and theories require citations and sources according to the scientific method..
Rumors not necesseraly so. So if one whishes to suddenly start to enforce some strict forum policy over rumors then i´d say "i see what you did there"

As for alex jones. yeah he is disinfo jew. yet jews hide their lies among many truths. So one can still learn something from whatever they say.
I think mr. gold would say something like. "there's diamonds in their shit"

Now if you 4 lions would stop barking up against the wrong tree , that would be great.

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PostSubject: Re: Henry Kissinger came to Moscow to discuss new financial system with Putin   Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:51 pm



Putin understands energy economics.  The oil economy is in sunset mode.

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