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PostSubject: Is it ever not about timing?   Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:03 am

Putin and Erdogan mend ties after Russia-Turkey jet incident


  • 17 minutes ago
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The leaders of Turkey and Russia have spoken for the first time since the downing of a Russian military jet by Turkey sparked a diplomatic crisis.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Vladimir Putin agreed over the phone to meet in person, Mr Erdogan's office said.

The call came after Turkey apologised earlier this week to Mr Putin and to the families of the Russian pilot and rescue marine killed in the incident.


Istanbul Ataturk airport attack: Deaths rise to 41, with 239 hurt


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The death toll in a gun and suicide bomb attack on Istanbul's Ataturk airport has risen to 41, 13 of them foreign nationals, with 239 injured, the Turkish city's governor says.



Three attackers arrived in a taxi and began firing at the terminal entrance late on Tuesday. They blew themselves up after police fired back.
PM Binali Yildirim said early signs pointed to so-called Islamic State.
However, no-one has so far admitted carrying out the attack.
Turkey has declared Wednesday a day of national mourning.

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Turkish investigators are examining CCTV footage, witness statements and mobile phone video recorded by terrified passengers to try to determine the identity of the attackers.
The Dogan news agency said autopsies on the three dead men suggested they may be foreign nationals but this has not been confirmed.


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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:48 am

And then there's the newly clean slate with Israel as well.

Re: Telegraph (UK) 6/28/16
Turkey buries hatchet with Russia and Israel as Erdogan tries to break out of isolation
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/28/turkey-buries-hatchet-with-russia-and-israel-as-erdogan-tries-to/

'Mr Erdogan began the thaw by doing what he had previously ruled out and sending a letter of apology to the Kremlin.

'On the same day, Turkey announced an agreement to restore full diplomatic relations with Israel, six years after nine of its citizens were killed by Israeli commandos while on board an aid ship trying to reach Gaza.'
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:01 am

Jews are shuffling the deck.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:30 am

Re: RT.com 6/30/16
Wanted in Russia: EU court blocked suspected Istanbul attack mastermind from extradition in 2010
https://www.rt.com/news/349063-istanbul-attack-mastermind-asylum/



A Chechen national suspected of being the mastermind behind the deadly Istanbul airport terrorist attack, earlier received refugee status in Austria, which helped him to repeatedly avoid extradition to Russia on terror charges.

The fatal attack on the Istanbul airport that took lives of 44 people and left more than 230 injured was allegedly organized by Ahmed Chataev, a Russian citizen of Chechen origin, who joined Islamic State (IS, former ISIS/ISIL) in 2015 and now fights in Syria, Turkish media report, citing police sources.

Chataev was assigned a leading role in training extremists that would then commit terrorist attacks in both Russia and Western Europe, the Deputy Chairman of the Russian Investigative Committee Andrey Przhezdomsky said, adding that, in Syria, Chataev also commands a unit consisting “primarily of immigrants from the North Caucasus,” Russia's Kommersant newspaper reported earlier this year.

Chataev turned out to be long wanted by the Russian authorities for terrorism-related offenses but he fled to Europe, where he was granted asylum, and successfully managed to escape extradition to Russia. ...
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This somewhat delayed news will not sit well with families of the victims, but as to State Department public response, there will be denial, a nix to fix blame back on Russia and the now-standard disconnect of least resistance.  That was Europe, not America, failing to act.

Maybe Chataev felt let down by his adopted country, finding out belatedly that Austria was not actually the land of yodelers as he had always believed.

His decision to visit Turkey and physical arrival there might have drawn something in the way of guarded concern.  

Looking down on the rest now with an earned and legitimate measure of moral satisfaction, Putin must be wondering why this becomes such an extremely dangerous disposition.  He's smart enough to realize there'll be retaliation for 'lacking' fault.
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:48 pm

turkey is the jew's militia\
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:18 pm

Jacob Gold wrote:
turkey is the jew's militia

Seems like that may be about to change.

The situation with the coup in Turkey seems like a huge nail in the coffin for US/Israel's interests in the region (i.e. will not be able to take control of Syria, and now they lost Turkey). Also a win for Russia, who I wonder to what extent they are involved.

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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:17 am

Obama says the people need to support the presidency of Erdogan.

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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:45 pm

OldTimes wrote:
Jacob Gold wrote:
turkey is the jew's militia

Seems like that may be about to change.

The situation with the coup in Turkey seems like a huge nail in the coffin for US/Israel's interests in the region (i.e. will not be able to take control of Syria, and now they lost Turkey).  Also a win for Russia, who I wonder to what extent they are involved.


Scratch all that.  It was a fake coup for Erdogan to clean house and import more Pentagon toys onto ZATO airstrips.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/erdogans-counter-coup-begins-turkey-purges-2745-judges-prosecutors-arrests-hundreds

The Counter-Coup Begins: Erdogan Purges 2,745 Judges, Prosecutors; Arrests Hundreds


When we described the aftermath of Turkey's failed, and painfully disorganized military coup attempt, we asked rhetorically, "Who wins?" To which we answered: "Why Erdogan of course. As he said during a press conference upon his arrival back in Istanbul in the early Saturday morning hours, the coup is an opportunity to "to purge the military." Erdogan also vowed to exact "the highest price" from the perpetrators. Or, to summarize, the military said Erdogan's power consolidation justifies the attempted coup; Erdogan said the coup justifies further consolidation of power."

Overnight, when analyzing the market's take of the coup, Renaissance Capital's Michael Harris said that "for markets to respond positively, we think Erdogan must go the reconciliation route, pledging not to hold elections for the coming year and committing to a consensus approach to constitutional change. More likely, though, Erdogan will seek to leverage this into a constitutional super-majority via a snap election."
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:22 pm

Turkey Accuses US Of Being Behind Military Coup, Demands Extradition Of Cleric Gulen

Jul 16, 2016 2:38 PM

When earlier today we reported that Turkey has closed the airspace above, and suspended all US-led air missions out of the giant Incirlik airbase (which houses some 50 US nuclear bombs), we said that there is speculation the "airbase may be held "hostage" by Ankara as a bargaining chip ahead of demands for the extradition of Erdogan's arch enemy, Fethullah Gulen, currently a resident of the state of Pennsylvania." A few hours later this was partially validated when during a televised speech, Turkish President Erdogan called on the United States to extradite Fethullah Gulen, a US-based Muslim cleric he accuses of being behind Turkey's failed coup attempt.

Erdogan demands US extradite 'head of terrorist' referring to Gulen while the crowd shouts 'death penalty for Feto'! pic.twitter.com/DjFVoxZVXy

— Mutlu Civiroglu (@mutludc) July 16, 2016



At roughtly the same time, Turkey's Minister of Labor went one step further, and accused America of being behind the coup on live Television, as it was harboring Gulen.

BREAKING: Secretary of Labor Süleyman Soylu live on news channel Haberturk: "The US is behind this coup" pic.twitter.com/khqdbUw7re

— Turkey Untold (@TurkeyUntold) July 16, 2016

To be sure, as we wrote first thing this morning, Gulen, who is currently residing in Saylorsburg, Peynnsylvania, said he condemned the coup “in the strongest terms.”
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:14 pm

Had to have been orchestrated to fail.

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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:58 pm

wag wrote:
Had to have been orchestrated to fail.

I think everyone knew a push back was coming from secularists and moderate islamic groups and it would be supported by a faction of the military.

He simply beat them to it and will now root out his enemies by labeling them as traitors.

Expect a theocratic dictatorship to evolve, maybe a new constitution based on marxist brand authoritarianism.

More backdoor cooperation with the Obama administration in the form of Syrian incursions, strikes on Assad, and covert assistance to "Isis".
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PostSubject: Re: Is it ever not about timing?   Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:27 am

Brezo wrote:
wag wrote:
Had to have been orchestrated to fail.

I think everyone knew a push back was coming from secularists and moderate islamic groups and it would be supported by a faction of the military.

He simply beat them to it and will now root out his enemies by labeling them as traitors.

Expect a theocratic dictatorship to evolve, maybe a new constitution based on marxist brand authoritarianism.

More backdoor cooperation with the Obama administration in the form of Syrian incursions, strikes on Assad, and covert assistance to "Isis".

Hillary would probably try to pull the same type of thing, from the cultural angle.  Good to see people not falling for it.

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