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PostSubject: Clown vs clown?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:07 am

What happens if Clinton drops out?


By Adam Shaw
Published September 13, 2016

Whether an October surprise may have come a month early, it’s too soon to say.
But Hillary Clinton’s weekend health scare already has started to stir speculation about whether Democratic officials should be discussing the possibility of a Plan B, in case they need to hastily arrange for a replacement nominee.
Which raises a basic question: How does that work?
Democratic Party bylaws say the DNC has the power to fill “vacancies in the nominations for the office of the president and vice president” when the national convention is not in session.
Under party rules, the DNC chair – currently Donna Brazile – could call a special meeting, and fill the vacancy by a majority vote of those present.
Analysts still see this scenario as exceedingly unlikely. It appears party leaders have no authority to sideline Clinton, meaning the special meeting would kick in only if she were to step aside voluntarily. The nominee and her aides say she's recovering and feeling much better now. 
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But after Clinton left a 9/11 memorial Sunday stumbling and being helped into an SUV by multiple aides -- an incident the campaign tied to a recent pneumonia diagnosis and other factors -- some Democrats are at least thinking about that process.  
Former DNC Chairman Don Fowler told Politico that the party needs to develop a plan immediately for finding a potential successor candidate. 
Former Al Jazeera and MSNBC anchor David Shuster tweeted Sunday that the DNC was considering an “emergency meeting” to talk about a Clinton replacement, although his source emphasized her status as nominee was up to her, not the party.
NPR’s Cokie Roberts said Monday that Democrats already are considering another candidate.
“It has them very nervously beginning to whisper about having her step aside and finding another candidate,” Roberts said, adding that “it’s unlikely to be a real thing” and describing the talk as likely “an overreaction.”
Perhaps inadvertently feeding that frenzy, former Ohio Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland introduced Clinton running mate Tim Kaine at an event Monday by describing him as “ready to become the president” if necessary, The Columbus Dispatch reported.
But in the, albeit unlikely, scenario of a replacement scramble, Kaine isn’t necessarily a shoo-in.
Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Vice President Joe Biden, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and others could all be possible candidates. 

Historian Doug Wead told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that the votes would tend to go toward whomever the top of the ticket endorses, though it’s not guaranteed.
“Whatever [Clinton] says will likely hold sway, but legally, technically they have their own vote,” he said.  
Replacing a member of a major-party ticket would be exceedingly rare, though not unprecedented. This happened in 1972 when Democratic nominee George McGovern’s running mate -- Sen. Thomas Eagleton -- withdrew from the race in July after it was revealed he had undergone electric shock treatment for mental health issues.
Eagleton was replaced in August by Sargent Shriver as the new vice presidential nominee. The McGovern/Shriver ticket went on to lose the race in a landslide to incumbent President Richard Nixon.
Rick Hasen, who runs the Election Law Blog, told FoxNews.com that the situation could become significantly more complicated if it were to play out later in the calendar.
“The more complicated problem would arise if ballots have already been printed, and people would have started voting. There, the Electoral College would come into play, and electors from the party would be expected to vote for the replacement nominee,” Hasen said.
The first absentee ballots were mailed out in Sept. 9 in North Carolina, and many other states will soon follow. By mid-September the deadlines for both parties to certify candidates for the general election will have passed in every state – meaning lawsuits might have to be filed to try and get a replacement on the ballot.
The DNC did not respond to a request for comment from FoxNews.com. 
This isn’t the first time this election cycle there has been talk of a candidate dropping out. In August, during a particularly rough patch of poll numbers for Trump, some GOP officials were reportedly considering contingency plans in case the Republican nominee dropped out. 
Fox News’ Shannon Bream contributed to this report.

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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:10 am


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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:20 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:49 am

Yes, this is a very real possibility and that was a good call. Bernie supporters might have to go one more round being ignored.

Trump by default is also more likely now.

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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:32 am

puckatawk wrote:
Yes, this is a very real possibility and that was a good call.  Bernie supporters might have to go one more round being ignored.

Trump by default is also more likely now.


Trump only wins by pitchforks, not default.

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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:00 am



The guy is definitely an unappealing blowhard, but when you consider the dire need for change away from current shadow government apparatus, finding any hint of relief from the 'beltway authority' intent on just carrying on with business as usual, Trump offers a potential shake-up.

Aside from more likable characters who detest him, there are for worse we know whose whinging is always a hopeful sign.
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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:38 am

Police Want to Arrest the Man Who Punched a Protester at a Donald Trump Rally


  • Daniel White @danielatlarge

Sept. 14, 2016



Evan Vucci—AP Supporters of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump cheer as he speaks during a rally in Asheville, N.C., on Sept. 12, 2016.  

The woman was taunting Trump supporters when she was "cold-cocked"

Police in North Carolina have issued an arrest warrant in the case of an 69-year-old woman who was assaulted outside a Donald Trump rally.
Shirley Teter, the woman who was punched, told local ABC affiliate WLOS that she was protesting outside the rally Monday and was taunting a Trump supporter, when a man “stopped in his tracks, and he turned around and just cold-cocked me.” Teter fell on an oxygen tank that she carries in her backpack and was taken to the hospital for sore ribs, a sore jaw and a scrape on her elbow.
Tensions were high between protesters and supporters, as the Republican presidential nominee’s speech was interrupted several times during the event, the Washington Post reports. Some 7,000 people attended the rally at the U.S. Cellular Center in Asheville, and there were protests inside and out of the venue, which resulted in some five arrests in connection with scuffles at the Monday night rally.
North Carolina is expected to be a highly contested state this November. The state went for Barack Obama in 2008 before voting for Mitt Romney in 2012.

 

  
A personal holohoax?  So who really is this someone they call 'surely teeter'?

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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:07 am

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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:15 pm

This is the hero that blamed slavery on the white man in "Southern Man" and never an apology. I say he can go to hell!

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PostSubject: Re: Clown vs clown?   Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:02 am

Seems like Canadians come with certain combination of liability and license to be ignorant about the world south of Manatoba; not intended as any kind of endorsement, but posted that picture to highlight irony that might have been better clarified as to Young's apparent change of heart or two, if not a change of face.

Re: Rolling Stone 6/11/16
Neil Young Onstage: 'F--k You, Donald Trump'
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-onstage-f--ck-you-donald-trump-20160611

The discrepancy began with an interview with Reuters, in which Young stated that Trump's campaign bought the license to use his song "Rockin' in The Free World." "Once the music goes out, anyone can use it for anything," Young said in the interview.

In this new statement, Young points out that there is a legal difference between obtaining music rights for commercial use and obtaining a license agreement for public venues. The former requires the consent of the artist. "When I discovered that [Trump] first used my song at his campaign launch, my management called his office and immediately requested he stop," Young wrote. "We thought he had. But now, unfortunately, I understand he is still using it."

Young alleges that when management approached Trump, the GOP frontrunner began "hurling insults" and released a photo that was taken out of context, Young said. The picture in question was taken months prior to Trump's decision to run in the presidential election during an investors meeting for Young's music company Pono.
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